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re: 2022 Formula 1 Season Thread
Posted on 5/23/22 at 9:23 pm to weagle99
Posted on 5/23/22 at 9:23 pm to weagle99
It's irrationally bothering me that new fans are saying teamwork hurts competition. The last two years are far better than the previous several. Just get used to 2 or 3 dominant drivers, follow mid-field stories, and enjoy it.... or don't.
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Posted on 5/23/22 at 9:52 pm to nola tiger lsu
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follow mid-field stories
I want a video from this past weekend just showing Alonso climb from P20 to P9.
Posted on 5/23/22 at 10:24 pm to horsesandbulls
quote:Fastest lap and $3 will get him a cup of coffee.
I know its not huge, but they did give Sergio the fastest lap to go along with his strategy, right?
JK - it counts, but I agree with the sentiment, and I'm pulling for Max, but I'm also the type to pull for the underdog, and I think Perez is an incredible wingman, who could compete well as the main driver for any other team and RBR, if they are too heavy with their finger on the scales in Max's favor are going to lise a good driver in his prime. If Sainz doesn't do something, soon, to live up to his hype, Perez could wind up with the Prancing Ponies or replacing Riccardo (who is just not getting it done this year) at McLaren.
Posted on 5/23/22 at 10:25 pm to nola tiger lsu
If it werent for the mid-field, I dont think Id be an F1 fan. 
Ive said this before, I know everyone drools over DtS, but there needs to be more behind the scenes (for better or worse) for all teams... ala Grand Prix Driver a few years back.
Ive said this before, I know everyone drools over DtS, but there needs to be more behind the scenes (for better or worse) for all teams... ala Grand Prix Driver a few years back.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:23 am to MLSter
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Did we ever get paddock photos and update from the guys at the race?
I’m in Spain until Friday. I’ll post pics this weekend. I’ll probably start a thread for the photos to avoid polluting this thread.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:28 am to weagle99
If you see one, post it in the thread, I’d over to see it
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:16 am to Lima Whiskey
I just watched the movie Grand Prix from 1966 with James Garner and as a movie it sucks but it has some amazing footage from the 1966 season.
Spa and Monza are nuts. Spa was still on public roads and while not quite at the danger level of the Isle of Man TT, the buildings and telephone poles and stuff alongside the course make it seem dangerous as shite, and there are some melodramatic fatalities in the movie. Monza still had the high banked section.
Anyway, the movie got me wondering...when did the technological arms race really start becoming a huge factor in F!? It wasn't that way in 1966 and I've searched but can't find any good sources on the web for when the major shift to technology started happening.
Here are the vids of Spa and Monza from the movie:
Youtube Spa Grand Prix movie
Youtube Monza Grand Prix Movie
Spa and Monza are nuts. Spa was still on public roads and while not quite at the danger level of the Isle of Man TT, the buildings and telephone poles and stuff alongside the course make it seem dangerous as shite, and there are some melodramatic fatalities in the movie. Monza still had the high banked section.
Anyway, the movie got me wondering...when did the technological arms race really start becoming a huge factor in F!? It wasn't that way in 1966 and I've searched but can't find any good sources on the web for when the major shift to technology started happening.
Here are the vids of Spa and Monza from the movie:
Youtube Spa Grand Prix movie
Youtube Monza Grand Prix Movie
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 5:21 am
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:28 am to Diseasefreeforall
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Anyway, the movie got me wondering...when did the technological arms race really start becoming a huge factor in F!?
quote:
Aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines. -- Enzo
Obtuse is probably the best to answer the question, but I have to think Williams bringing in active suspension, maybe ABS/Traction Control advancements. So early 90's is where the separation really started to show. Or maybe the mid-90s when a lot of that was banned.
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 5:29 am
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:12 am to fightin tigers
There is a pretty hefty chance for rain in Monaco on Sat and Sun. Doesn't look like it will be a huge amount of rain but hopefully it will add some excitement.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 9:27 am to nola tiger lsu
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It's irrationally bothering me that new fans are saying teamwork hurts competition. The last two years are far better than the previous several. Just get used to 2 or 3 dominant drivers, follow mid-field stories, and enjoy it.... or don't.
So I'm a new fan so I can't be bothered by anything? Enjoy everything about it or just quit watching? Get over yourself.
I love college football but I think college overtime rules are the dumbest thing in all of sports. I love the NBA but I hate flopping and it's something you see in every game. I guess I should just stop watching because I have one complaint for them too?
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 10:40 am
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:00 am to Diseasefreeforall
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Anyway, the movie got me wondering...when did the technological arms race really start becoming a huge factor in F!?
I would say it really started in 1978, with the Lotus 79, the first car with fully developed ground effects. The radical Brabham BT46B fan car was also introduced in 1978, but the Lotus concept was the one that stuck.
From wiki:
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The Lotus 79 is credited with pushing Formula One into the aerodynamics era, and its influence is still keenly felt on today's modern F1 cars. After Rubens Barrichello drove the 79 at the Goodwood Festival of Speed in 2000, he came away raving about its phenomenal grip and traction, and stated it felt like a modern Grand Prix car.
The next big step was the McLaren MP4/1 introduced in 1981, which featured a full carbon fiber monocoque tub.
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 10:14 am
Posted on 5/24/22 at 11:23 am to TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Nyck de Vries looks set to be given another Free Practice 1 outing at an F1 weekend in 2022, with Mercedes planning for the Dutchman to drive their car later in the season.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 11:47 am to iwyLSUiwy
Formula 1 isn’t supposed to be about the driver. It’s supposed to be about who has the best car. Whoever has the best car should win. That’s the whole point of the sport.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:00 pm to iwyLSUiwy
I did say it was "irrationally" being bothered which means I acknowledge my annoyance is not reasonable.
Jeeze.
That being said Ive had friends watch Netflix and get hooked and a couple watch and then get bored and stop watching races. My response is yes if you got into F1 because of Netflix your opinion is worth less than someone who has watched say even 5 years.
Rational or not.
Jeeze.
That being said Ive had friends watch Netflix and get hooked and a couple watch and then get bored and stop watching races. My response is yes if you got into F1 because of Netflix your opinion is worth less than someone who has watched say even 5 years.
Rational or not.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:02 pm to Diseasefreeforall
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Spa and Monza are nuts. Spa was still on public roads and while not quite at the danger level of the Isle of Man TT, the buildings and telephone poles and stuff alongside the course make it seem dangerous as shite, and there are some melodramatic fatalities in the movie. Monza still had the high banked section.
As I recall they had stopped racing the F1 cars on the banking a couple years before the movie was made. It was used in the movie for obvious reasons.
And the banking is still there. The current track goes under it.
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Anyway, the movie got me wondering...when did the technological arms race really start becoming a huge factor in F!? It wasn't that way in 1966 and I've searched but can't find any good sources on the web for when the major shift to technology started happening.
I'd point to the turbo era as when things really started to separate. Prior to the turbos coming of age in the early 80's the constructors generally just built the chassis and used Cosworth DFV's from the late 60's up until the mid 80's for the last teams. Ferrari was about the only team to design and build their own engines. Hewland gearboxes were also common.
With the turbos from Renault/Porsche/BMW/Ferrari/Honda/Alfa there was a major horsepower race that hadn't been seen before and the cars became more identified by what powerplant they had versus the previous era with the generic DFV.
Add in the improving aero knowledge and the resources needed to tap gains and the 80's is when F1 went from a few guys being able to build a car in a shed to teams of engineers.
The first carbon fiber tubs were built in 1981 as well during this era.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:58 pm to BuckyCheese
Sorry for this OT post. It's not about F1. It's about an IndyCar driver whose immigrant parents achieved the American Dream. It's worth a read if you love America. 
Malukas’ Parents Living American, '500' Dream as Immigrants
Malukas’ Parents Living American, '500' Dream as Immigrants
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:58 pm to athenslife101
quote:So, all things being equal, then, you're saying the driver is immaterial. That's funny. I guess Bottas and Hamilton should have considered sitting and watching from the stands whilst the Mercedes cars went out on their own and lapped the field?
Formula 1 isn’t supposed to be about the driver. It’s supposed to be about who has the best car. Whoever has the best car should win. That’s the whole point of the sport.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 1:06 pm to nola tiger lsu
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I did say it was "irrationally" being bothered which means I acknowledge my annoyance is not reasonable.
I know, but you're last two comments were about fans but it was really towards me. Basically saying...
"You're entitled to your opinion, BUT... I wish fans like you would leave."
"fans that say teamwork hurts competition (something only I said but was taken the wrong way)... enjoy it or leave."
quote:
That being said Ive had friends watch Netflix and get hooked and a couple watch and then get bored and stop watching races. My response is yes if you got into F1 because of Netflix your opinion is worth less than someone who has watched say even 5 years.
I had one complaint, sorry it bothered you.
I'll stick to non F1 posts until I learn the history/get some better knowledge of the sport like the 5 year vets.
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 5/24/22 at 1:08 pm to nola tiger lsu
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My response is yes if you got into F1 because of Netflix your opinion is worth less than someone who has watched say even 5 years.
How’s keeping the gate going? Can’t believe someone had the audacity to discover a new thing and ask a question about it.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 1:33 pm to HubbaBubba
There’s a reason why winning is determined by constructors cup standing, not driver point standing.
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