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Posted on 4/12/13 at 10:55 pm to medtiger
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Can't you keep the line of your original shot between you and the hole and go back as far as you want?
not if your ball crossed the hazard
Posted on 4/12/13 at 10:55 pm to medtiger
They're fricking with you, they hate tiger. The drop was legal
Posted on 4/12/13 at 10:56 pm to threeputt
You high?
Posted on 4/12/13 at 10:57 pm to redfieldk717
quote:
If a ball is found in a water hazard or if it is known or virtually certain that a ball that has not been found is in the water hazard (whether the ball lies in water or not), the player may under penalty of one stroke:
a. Proceed under the stroke and distance provision of Rule 27-1 by playing a ball as nearly as possible at the spot from which the original ball was last played (see Rule 20-5); or
b. Drop a ball behind the water hazard, keeping the point at which the original ball last crossed the margin of the water hazard directly between the hole and the spot on which the ball is dropped, with no limit to how far behind the water hazard the ball may be dropped; or
c. As additional options available only if the ball last crossed the margin of a lateral water hazard, drop a ball outside the water hazard within two club-lengths of and not nearer the hole than (i) the point where the original ball last crossed the margin of the water hazard or (ii) a point on the opposite margin of the water hazard equidistant from the hole.
Posted on 4/12/13 at 10:58 pm to redfieldk717
There are a bunch of people with different views on it.
It crossed on the other margin of the hazard. The rule says you have to keep the point where it last crossed the margin of the hazard between you and the hole, and can go back as far as you want.
Some people feel that the point it last crossed was on the side closest to him, some feel it was where it rolled in.
Since he knowingly dropped it two yards further back, he didn't drop it as close to where he played the prior shot.
Drop a ball behind the water hazard, keeping the point at which the original ball last crossed the margin of the water hazard directly between the hole and the spot on which the ball is dropped
This is the issue. Which margin of the hazard, closest to the player, or closest to the hole, since the ball crossed the hazard line on the other side (assuming they mark the other side)
It crossed on the other margin of the hazard. The rule says you have to keep the point where it last crossed the margin of the hazard between you and the hole, and can go back as far as you want.
Some people feel that the point it last crossed was on the side closest to him, some feel it was where it rolled in.
Since he knowingly dropped it two yards further back, he didn't drop it as close to where he played the prior shot.
Drop a ball behind the water hazard, keeping the point at which the original ball last crossed the margin of the water hazard directly between the hole and the spot on which the ball is dropped
This is the issue. Which margin of the hazard, closest to the player, or closest to the hole, since the ball crossed the hazard line on the other side (assuming they mark the other side)
This post was edited on 4/12/13 at 11:00 pm
Posted on 4/12/13 at 10:59 pm to hehateme2285
It was completely legal. Don't know what y'all are trying to figure out
Posted on 4/12/13 at 11:01 pm to medtiger
quote:
If a ball is found in a water hazard or if it is known or virtually certain that a ball that has not been found is in the water hazard (whether the ball lies in water or not), the player may under penalty of one stroke:
a. Proceed under the stroke and distance provision of Rule 27-1 by playing a ball as nearly as possible at the spot from which the original ball was last played (see Rule 20-5); or
b. Drop a ball behind the water hazard, keeping the point at which the original ball last crossed the margin of the water hazard directly between the hole and the spot on which the ball is dropped, with no limit to how far behind the water hazard the ball may be dropped; or
c. As additional options available only if the ball last crossed the margin of a lateral water hazard, drop a ball outside the water hazard within two club-lengths of and not nearer the hole than (i) the point where the original ball last crossed the margin of the water hazard or (ii) a point on the opposite margin of the water hazard equidistant from the hole.
Anyway, it was a grey zone...they'll never look at it.
Posted on 4/12/13 at 11:03 pm to unbeWEAVEable
Well, supposedly, on the CBS recap, Feherty just said it was illegal
Posted on 4/12/13 at 11:03 pm to hehateme2285
The way I understand it is you can either go to the drop circle
-or-
Within 2 club lengths of where you hit the ball in the water from. Which is what Tiger did at 15.
-or-
Within 2 club lengths of where you hit the ball in the water from. Which is what Tiger did at 15.
Posted on 4/12/13 at 11:04 pm to purplepylon
quote:
The way I understand it is you can either go to the drop circle
-or-
Within 2 club lengths of where you hit the ball in the water from. Which is what Tiger did at 15.
He didn't do either of those
Posted on 4/12/13 at 11:04 pm to unbeWEAVEable
He violated subsection (a) by not dropping as near to the point of his last known point of contact.
He violated subsection (b) by not keeping the point where the original ball entered the hazard between him and the hole.
He violated subsection (c) by not dropping within two club lengths of the hazard.
So where is my logic wrong?
He violated subsection (b) by not keeping the point where the original ball entered the hazard between him and the hole.
He violated subsection (c) by not dropping within two club lengths of the hazard.
So where is my logic wrong?
This post was edited on 4/12/13 at 11:05 pm
Posted on 4/12/13 at 11:04 pm to unbeWEAVEable
Ah, I see. So, he should've either replayed his original shot or moved over towards his left and replay the shot on that line because the ball crossed the hazard line to his left. That's interesting. I'd be shocked if anything came of it though.
Posted on 4/12/13 at 11:05 pm to medtiger
Right medtiger. But he did not opt to take that highlighted option (the ball came off the flag at a different angle thus the point between the spot he last played the shot and whete it enteted the hazard changed) ... He must have proceeded under option a and he admitted to not dropping in the sams spot
Posted on 4/12/13 at 11:05 pm to hehateme2285
quote:
He didn't do either of those
How far behind the original shot did he hit his 5th from?
Posted on 4/12/13 at 11:06 pm to purplepylon
I am so confused by all of you claiming this was illegal.
Posted on 4/12/13 at 11:06 pm to lsugolf1105
Read my explanation. It's not confusing.
Posted on 4/12/13 at 11:07 pm to purplepylon
quote:
How far behind the original shot did he hit his 5th from?
2 yards, so it wasn't as close to the original spot.
I think it's stupid if they penalize him, because a lot of people are interpreting the rule differently, including rules officials. And he didn't gain a competitive advantage.
And he won't be DQ'd, I don't believe. They decide to amend that rule for penalties that viewers decide to call in. They'll add on 2 if they penalize
Posted on 4/12/13 at 11:07 pm to lsugolf1105
Never mind. Drunk.
Posted on 4/12/13 at 11:08 pm to hehateme2285
They won't do anything. It's Tiger. Everyone is up his arse.
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