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re: X/Twitter is already cash flow positive per a Bloomberg reporter

Posted on 10/9/23 at 9:09 am to
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
18820 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 9:09 am to
I remember a few months ago Elon was talking about how X might go bankrupt. Mainstream news runs with it and laughs.
He is the master of trolling.
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
46416 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 9:11 am to
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Does anyone still use Threads at all?

Found this from October 4th...

NY Post: So much for Meta’s ‘Twitter killer’: Major brands shun Threads, traffic plunges 80%
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Many of the nation’s top brands and celebrities have stopped posting on Meta’s new social network Threads — billed as a “Twitter killer” at the time of its splashy summer debut — as user traffic has plunged by more than 80%.

The National Football League, the wealthiest and most powerful sports league in the country, has not bothered to post on Threads in seven weeks.

Coca-Cola’s last post on Threads was a week ago while fast food giant McDonald’s hasn’t provided fresh content on the app for nearly two months.

Madison Square Garden’s official Threads account has not posted anything new in three months since first joining the app.

Five days after Threads was unveiled in July, parent company Meta revealed a staggering100 million users had signed up — nearly half of the 225 million active daily users that are on X, the social network formerly known as Twitter that’s now owned by Elon Musk.

Meta, however, achieved the eye-popping figure mainly because it automatically grants Instagram account holders with their own Threads page.

At its peak in July, Threads drew an average of 49.3 million daily active users on Android, according to the research firm Similarweb.

That number has since dipped to 8.6 million — an 82% drop.

Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24808 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 9:12 am to
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I am also cash flow positive if you ignore my monthly debt service.


So, you have negative cash flow? Cut back on the cocaine my man.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
58945 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 9:14 am to
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At its peak in July, Threads drew an average of 49.3 million daily active users on Android, according to the research firm Similarweb.

That number has since dipped to 8.6 million — an 82% drop.


Damn
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 9:17 am to
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Elon just keeps winning. Dude needs to run for president



He can't. He'll have to find other ways to Anti-Crist.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
73301 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 9:28 am to
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
47470 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 9:30 am to
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I am also cash flow positive if you ignore my monthly debt service.

I would hope you’re cash flow positive not ignoring monthly debt service.

I don’t think anyone’s investing in you
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
51558 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 9:34 am to
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X/Twitter is already cash flow positive


But your own link says they are not
Posted by TigerHornII
Member since Feb 2021
1155 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 9:48 am to
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Hey guys twitter is making money as long as you don't factor in the biggest expense they must pay.



Here's a l'il learnin' for ya baw:

In publicly traded companies, or any large company, one of the most important metrics for valuing the company's future is EBITDA - Earnings Before INTEREST, Taxes, Depreciation and Amortization.

X, as a software services company, has very little DA compared to conventional companies its size, other than amortization of the loans. Its primary expense is I, interest on those loans.

The way that banks and investors will look at this is "Loans will be paid down in time, potential for the company is there because earnings are positive." In other words, the I and A have fixed timelines, and are not likely to increase because E is +. If anything, they will go down with more favorable financing as E continues its + trend.

This ain't like you payin on your doublewide, a 10 year old Camaro, and child support working a dead end jerb for your E.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179696 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 9:50 am to
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TigerHornII



Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
47470 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 10:00 am to
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In publicly traded companies, or any large company, one of the most important metrics for valuing the company's future is EBITDA - Earnings Before INTEREST, Taxes, Depreciation and Amortization.

1. Cash flow positive without debt service doesn’t necessarily mean EBITDA positive. Cash flow and profit aren’t the same thing.

2. EBITDA being one of the most important metrics is very debatable.

3. Bragging about X being cash flow positive when they’re only cash flow positive without debt service is a very stupid thing to do.

I kinda think Elon will get X to be successful but it takes time.
This post was edited on 10/9/23 at 10:01 am
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
40326 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 10:05 am to
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stout


You realize his post was mostly nonsense right? You didn’t?


Oof.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58310 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 10:45 am to
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Who isn't cash flow positive when you don't include your debts?
seems twitter, before Elon, wasnt.
This post was edited on 10/9/23 at 2:23 pm
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93850 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 11:11 am to
Will be worth a trillion dollars soon
Posted by justaniceguy
Member since Sep 2020
6700 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 11:23 am to
I just want the old Twitter back. It was fine when he bought it, and I was even excited for it, but every new change he makes is so shite
Posted by justaniceguy
Member since Sep 2020
6700 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 11:24 am to
I hopped on the bandwagon and made a Twitter when he bought it but yeah, idk what he is doing anymore
Posted by faraway
Member since Nov 2022
3572 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 12:35 pm to
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he’s African
wouldn't be the first time
Posted by 21JumpStreet
Member since Jul 2012
14857 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 1:37 pm to
Elon the goat. Also took the jab
Posted by Texas Tea 123
Member since Sep 2017
287 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 1:56 pm to
Cash Flow Positive before Debt Service

That is the dumbest metric I have ever seen.

They pay interest in cash. It is a real expense. There is no money left for equity. The debt does not go away. They have no cash available to pay it down. Elon fan boys -- this was a horrendous deal, he paid way too much and financed it way too aggressively.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
34139 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 2:40 pm to
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Does anyone still use Threads at all?


I haven't heard a word about it since its debut, until this thread.

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