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With the ADP report in does the feds lower rates
Posted on 9/4/25 at 9:33 am
Posted on 9/4/25 at 9:33 am
It seems to me they would. But... who am I right.
I know sept is historically a negative month. I'm seeing some deals already. I will start purchasing soon.... before the 17th (feds announcement)
I know sept is historically a negative month. I'm seeing some deals already. I will start purchasing soon.... before the 17th (feds announcement)
Posted on 9/4/25 at 12:09 pm to BCreed1
Experts says there is more than 95% chance of a cut Expected to be 25 bp. Already baked-in.
Wall Street was hoping for 50 bp, but I don't think even the worst job reports will result in that. The Fed still hates the uncertainty the tariffs cause to the economy.
Wall Street was hoping for 50 bp, but I don't think even the worst job reports will result in that. The Fed still hates the uncertainty the tariffs cause to the economy.
Posted on 9/4/25 at 12:10 pm to BCreed1
I've been loading up on REITs in anticipation of it, so Powell probably won't do it.
In all seriousness though, as long as inflation is rising or remaining sticky well above 2%, cutting rates invites a return of inflation increases (like we saw after hikes last year).
In all seriousness though, as long as inflation is rising or remaining sticky well above 2%, cutting rates invites a return of inflation increases (like we saw after hikes last year).
Posted on 9/4/25 at 12:44 pm to Bard
Don’t be surprised if the fed cuts rates and the 10 yr and Libor stay put or even go up.
Posted on 9/4/25 at 1:50 pm to BCreed1
Yes, I expect small caps, real estate, energy to benefit.
Posted on 9/4/25 at 1:54 pm to BCreed1
If they weren't planning on cutting; then Jerome would be out there everyday right now jawboning the baked in price cut out of existence.
Posted on 9/4/25 at 2:33 pm to Shepherd88
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Don’t be surprised if the fed cuts rates and the 10 yr and Libor stay put or even go up.
That would not be good.
Posted on 9/4/25 at 3:04 pm to Bard
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Don’t be surprised if the fed cuts rates and the 10 yr and Libor stay put or even go up.
Yep. I'm thinking the yield curve will turn into a yield cliff or a yield wall, depending on how you want to describe it.
Posted on 9/4/25 at 6:54 pm to BCreed1
They have no choice unless tomorrow is another bs blowout
I will be right again
I will be right again
Posted on 9/6/25 at 8:07 am to SDVTiger
Lol. When have you been right?
Posted on 9/6/25 at 8:57 am to KWL85
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Lol. When have you been right?
Well 12mnths ago you and all the clowns claimed there would be no cut
I said .5
I was right. Thats just for starters
Posted on 9/6/25 at 9:10 am to SDVTiger
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Well 12mnths ago you and all the clowns claimed there would be no cut
I said .5
I was right. Thats just for starters
Posted on 9/6/25 at 1:27 pm to Shepherd88
The 10yr yield came down over 20bps this week after some of the economic news. If the economy starts to slow you can expect yields will continue to fall.
Also, LIBOR no longer exists. It’s been replaced by SOFR.
Also, LIBOR no longer exists. It’s been replaced by SOFR.
Posted on 9/7/25 at 9:53 am to SDVTiger
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Lol. When have you been right?
Well 12mnths ago you and all the clowns claimed there would be no cut
I said .5
I was right. Thats just for starters
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False. I never make claims like that. You are full of something. You make enough claims that you have to be right occasionally. You have several years of bad posts.
You were predicting drastic changes that never materialized. You were repeating whatever Trump said, and neither of you use data driven decisions. The data has not indicated that we are late on cuts. Powell has been good at his job this year. It seems likely to get a Sept cut, but the risk of inflation is still high. Smart money is on wait and see beyond September.
Lol. When have you been right?
Well 12mnths ago you and all the clowns claimed there would be no cut
I said .5
I was right. Thats just for starters
_______
False. I never make claims like that. You are full of something. You make enough claims that you have to be right occasionally. You have several years of bad posts.
You were predicting drastic changes that never materialized. You were repeating whatever Trump said, and neither of you use data driven decisions. The data has not indicated that we are late on cuts. Powell has been good at his job this year. It seems likely to get a Sept cut, but the risk of inflation is still high. Smart money is on wait and see beyond September.
Posted on 9/7/25 at 11:14 am to BCreed1
There was a report out yesterday morning that June and July jobs are revised down by 21k. That, combined with the poor job creation numbers should pretty much lock in a .25 cut this month.
This will likely be a bit of a repeat of last year with inflation increasing through the last quarter unless there's been something obscenely off about the GDP numbers.
This will likely be a bit of a repeat of last year with inflation increasing through the last quarter unless there's been something obscenely off about the GDP numbers.
Posted on 9/7/25 at 11:41 am to KWL85
Thats a long rant of mierda. You could have just said yeah you are always right
Posted on 9/7/25 at 11:46 am to Bard
Moody’s and Goldman have inflation peaking in November as the majority of firms lock in price increases related to tariffs
They don’t see tariff price hikes lingering into 2026 because they don’t think firms will slow-walk price increases, instead opting for one or two bursts
They don’t see tariff price hikes lingering into 2026 because they don’t think firms will slow-walk price increases, instead opting for one or two bursts
Posted on 9/7/25 at 12:55 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Moody’s and Goldman have inflation peaking in November as the majority of firms lock in price increases related to tariffs
They don’t see tariff price hikes lingering into 2026 because they don’t think firms will slow-walk price increases, instead opting for one or two bursts
I think the rest of the world may be more dependent on US consumerism than many believe and tariffs will tell the tale on that.
If true, then producers exporting to the US will continue to eat costs because enough profits are still there (and can't be made up elsewhere). If this is the case, we get continued GDP growth, unemployment stalls (or shrinks slightly) while inflation remains sticky well above the target (or possibly increases slightly). We could call this "stagflation-adjacent" (since there's no term for it).
If not true, then exporters will be passing increasing costs down the chain (until they determine what consumers will accept) with those costs being expressed through rising CPI/PCE. With that, we should see slowing GDP growth which would also express through maintained or growing unemployment (read: recession).
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