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Who is paying for the uninsured deposits for SVB?

Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:37 pm
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61283 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:37 pm
If the money isn't coming from the taxpayers then who is paying for the amounts over $250k that weren't insured?


Who was forced to use this bank to house their money?
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38793 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:43 pm to
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the money isn't coming from the taxpayers


Lol
Posted by Skervix
Member since Aug 2018
194 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:46 pm to
Posted by schexyoung
Deaf Valley
Member since May 2008
6534 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:46 pm to
Right now the FDIC fund which is funded by fees charged to covered banks. FDIC has never in its history needed tax payer money to acquire and sell off a failed bank. Once SVB is sold the FDIC will recoup the majority of the funds money.

Bond and equity holders are not bailed out.
This post was edited on 3/12/23 at 9:47 pm
Posted by catfish 62
Atlanta
Member since Mar 2010
4913 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 10:00 pm to
Either they got bought and the acquiring bank resolves the uninsured portion based on their balance sheet, or the Fed bails them out and passed the cost onto banks who will inevitable pass it along to consumers by way of products
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38793 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 10:18 pm to
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Skervix


Guess taking narrow view

There is no money us government has that is somehow not derived from taxpayers

Even if truckle down fees or less roi on investment in financial institutions
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38793 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 10:22 pm to
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Bond and equity holders are not bailed out.


Struggling to see difference between bond holder and depositor greater than $250k
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6553 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 10:26 pm to
If FDIC ends up covering ALL deposits, the next logical step is for the Federal Reserve offer checking and savings accounts….

The road to hell, etc.
Posted by schexyoung
Deaf Valley
Member since May 2008
6534 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 11:06 pm to
Bond holders in the back of the line.
It’s doubtful the sale will generate proceeds that reaches bond and equity holders.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38793 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 11:35 pm to
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Bond holders in the back of the line.
It’s doubtful the sale will generate proceeds that reaches bond and equity holders.




Why are they any different then depositors who lent the bank money

I agree you are right but depositors should have known better
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
12377 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 12:01 am to
Me the taxpayer.
Posted by dat yat
Chef Pass
Member since Jun 2011
4317 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 1:33 am to
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the money isn't coming from the taxpayers


Not directly, we are only a step and a half removed from paying.

Truth is, we even pay for the insured deposits through the FDIC. Bank failures are expensive.
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
20384 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 7:19 am to
Got a mirror?
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14218 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 8:03 am to
If the Fed swaps SVPs long term assets for short term assets it’ll be close to a wash eventually.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42611 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 8:58 am to
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If the money isn't coming from the taxpayers then who is paying for the amounts over $250k that weren't insured?

Taxpayers do, but not through paying taxes. Assessments charged to other banks will cover anything else beyond insured amounts. The other banks will trickle the cost of those assessments down to their customers.

As others have said, the Fed will also liquidate SVB’s assets and sell them off to other banks. That’ll recoup a lot of the losses.
This post was edited on 3/13/23 at 12:00 pm
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9652 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 9:03 am to
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sale them off


sell
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42611 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:59 am to
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sell

I’m embarrassed. I know better. I was typing that while sitting in the misery waiting room at jury duty.
Posted by theRealJesseD
Member since Nov 2021
2898 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 12:11 pm to
common shareholders will pay for it via dilution

Posted by Drunken Crawfish
Member since Apr 2017
3823 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 12:48 pm to
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Taxpayers do, but not through paying taxes


Framing customers as "taxpayers", though, is a bit disingenuous because it implies that their taxes are being used to cover losses.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37112 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 1:45 pm to
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I agree you are right but depositors should have known better


When you buy bonds, you (should) be studying the financials and making a studied investment decision.

No one, and I mean no one, decides to open up a checking and savings account based on the financials of the bank.
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