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re: Who is paying for the uninsured deposits for SVB?

Posted on 3/13/23 at 1:48 pm to
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 3/13/23 at 1:48 pm to
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If the Fed swaps SVPs long term assets for short term assets it’ll be close to a wash eventually.


SVB has a bunch of fed securities that are basically trading at 60% of stated value.

The fed reserve can buy them at 100% of value, make everyone whole, and then hang on to redeem the security until it matures, making the 40% current haircut essentially meaningless.

Now, that might take 10-20 years. Ultimately, the fed has the ability to hang on that long.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 3/13/23 at 1:49 pm to
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Who was forced to use this bank to house their money?


VC Fund: "Hey startup, we will give you $50M in cash, but you have to house it with our "partners" at SVB"

Start-up: OK...
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 3/13/23 at 1:50 pm to
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If FDIC ends up covering ALL deposits, the next logical step is for the Federal Reserve offer checking and savings account


Lots of dems already want federal provided banking.

I don't think this will result... but I DO think we just got unlimited FDIC guarantees. That's gonna be hard to pull back.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 3/13/23 at 2:16 pm to
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Once SVB is sold the FDIC will recoup the majority of the funds money.


Not so fast.

Ultimately the FDIC is funded by banks, which means you and I pay for it as clients of banks. The FDIC stepping in to cover everyone means premiums are going up, so actual tax payers are effectively on the hook.
Posted by Dirtyboro
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 3/13/23 at 3:27 pm to
It’s amazing the deals this clown govt will make to keep billionaires afloat
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/13/23 at 5:31 pm to
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Who is paying for the uninsured deposits for SVB?
They have enough collateral in treasuries to pay everyone off eventually, it just could take awhile. All that's really happening is that the fedgov (i.e. the issuer of these treasuries in the first place) is just saying - OK, you can get the capital now.
Posted by Nephropidae
Brentwood
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 3/13/23 at 5:39 pm to
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Struggling to see difference between bond holder and depositor greater than $250k
a bond is a security which comes with risk. When people make deposits they are not taking on the same risk as someone who invests in or purchases bonds to fund a bank.
This post was edited on 3/13/23 at 5:42 pm
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 3/13/23 at 6:25 pm to
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No one, and I mean no one, decides to open up a checking and savings account based on the financials of the bank


I would agree with you about depositors who do not exceed the $250K FDIC insurance limitation. They really shouldn’t have to worry. But for those who choose to exceed it, they should definitely do a risk assessment. As investors and/or savers, I just believe we should all be mindful of what the insurance limits are (FDIC and SIPC).
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4096 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 6:27 pm to
Yep, pretty much how it went down.
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