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What kind of idiot trades on margin?

Posted on 2/6/18 at 10:26 am
Posted by YoungManOldMan
Member since Dec 2017
1882 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 10:26 am
Seriously. This just seems how people become homeless and suicide. Days like the past few and reading r/wallstreetbets has me wondering about some folks sanity.

It's like taking a loan to go to the casino.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35402 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 10:27 am to
There’s finance courses you can take, my friend
Posted by YoungManOldMan
Member since Dec 2017
1882 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 10:28 am to
I think the best education is learning from some of you saps, personally.
Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
53177 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 10:29 am to
Margin can be a very useful tool if used properly.

Using it for derivatives and major risk plays, that’s pretty fricking stupid.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35402 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 10:31 am to
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Using it for derivatives and major risk plays, that’s pretty fricking stupid.




What? You mean nobody forces you to lever you leverage?
Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
53177 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 10:34 am to
I don’t see how those dudes get any sleep levering a levered product like that
Posted by YoungManOldMan
Member since Dec 2017
1882 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 10:38 am to
So what is the rule of thumb...never trade on margin what you're not able to replace with cash?
Posted by Omada
Member since Jun 2015
695 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 10:47 am to
The rule of thumb for you, YMOM, is just don't use margin at all.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 11:20 am to
quote:

What kind of idiot trades on margin?
Posted by b-rab2
N. Louisiana
Member since Dec 2005
12577 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 11:27 am to
I do. Not full margin though. I use margin quite a bit. good thing last week I went to close to 30% cash
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61834 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 11:28 am to
quote:

reading r/wallstreetbets
been a good day for this. My personal favorite is this guy who lost almost $4million

Posted by bovine1
Walnut Ridge,AR via Tallulah,LA
Member since Dec 2004
1282 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 3:49 pm to
I guess me. I used to trade on margin all the time. Not any more. It's a tool.
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167317 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 3:56 pm to
quote:

There’s finance courses you can take, my friend




Posted by AugustaTiger
Augusta, Georgia
Member since Dec 2017
743 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 6:17 pm to
Folks who trade frequently employ margin to avoid a reg t violations of free riding in a cash account.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27081 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 7:19 pm to
Very nice gif usage, old man
Posted by stonerolledaway
the villages
Member since Jul 2011
982 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 7:46 pm to
same kind of idiots who buy expensive cars with loans. Why would anyone buy more car than needed with borrowed money? same goes for houses, vacations, on and on..."I've seen more people fail because of liquor and leverage—leverage being borrowed money. You really don't need leverage in this world much. If you're smart, you're going to make a lot of money without borrowing." warren buffett
This post was edited on 2/6/18 at 7:55 pm
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51910 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 7:59 pm to
quote:



It's like taking a loan to go to the casino.


Using it to take an already leveraged position sure, and going all in with it sure.


But you can make a substantial amount of money you otherwise couldn’t doing “boring” things like picking up an SP500 index asset mid correction and selling on the rebound.

(This is just a very generic example)
This post was edited on 2/6/18 at 8:04 pm
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72734 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 8:44 pm to
quote:

I used to trade on margin all the time.


same here and I only did it with futures as i am sure you did also.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72734 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 8:55 pm to
quote:

You really don't need leverage in this world much.


you think it is bad using leverage in RE?

if you say yes.............

Posted by stonerolledaway
the villages
Member since Jul 2011
982 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 7:15 am to
Borrowing for real estate is better because it normally appreciates in value but not always, as opposed to idiots borrowing for expensive cars which depreciate every single time. Leverage can work but it is risky not only due to the investment itself fluctuating but also factors can change such as loss of income or in the governments case loss of revenue.
This post was edited on 2/7/18 at 7:18 am
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