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What advice would you give to a 35yo, with zero work skills and very little education?

Posted on 11/11/24 at 8:12 am
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 8:12 am
Asking for a friend of course


But let’s just pretend that “friend” has a basic liberal arts degree, and no technical work skills. They’ve been a PE teacher for the past decade, and are officially burned-out.

What suggestions or career advice for 2025 would anyone recommend? The friend will be monitoring this thread, just looking to draw inspiration from anywhere possible, in order to make a leap into something new hopefully…..
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 8:14 am to
Learn to code
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 8:19 am to
Sales
Posted by ATOlurker
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 8:22 am to
does this PE teaching job have one of those great teacher's retirement plan? If so stick it our until you are locked into the retirement then figure something out.

Maybe transfer schools to get a change of scenery.
Posted by lsu for the win
Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 8:28 am to
Go teach English in Thailand. I know of several folks who have done incredibly well with that route.
This post was edited on 11/11/24 at 9:57 am
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 8:29 am to
What are your friends interests?

Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 8:38 am to
Be honest. What is the work ethic and drive of your friend? My guess is it is very low. Hard to overcome that at 35 but it is not too late.

Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 8:53 am to
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does this PE teaching job have one of those great teacher's retirement plan? If so stick it out until you are locked into the retirement then figure something out.
unfortunately no. The mediocre retirement options aren’t worth gutting-out another decade+


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Go teach English in Thailand
something like that might be an option, especially since a divorce is currently taking place.


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What are your friends interests?
their pets, fishing, sports/college football. Nothing they can realistically make a career out of unfortunately.


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Be honest. What is the work ethic and drive of your friend? My guess is it is very low.
probably so, but I think that’s probably common with a lot of salaried jobs where you just show-up and go through the motions at some point.
This person has had amazing drive when it comes to other things in the past. So that’s why they’re looking for something else, because that drive is not there anymore. Maybe some type of a commission based sales job like mentioned above would be a good place to look. Maybe something like that would provide a spark.
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 8:57 am to
Does your friend smoke much weed?
Posted by SM1010
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 9:02 am to
I also have a basic liberal arts degree and I also fricked around in a call center job for way too long after college so I had a shitty degree with no practical experience.

I'm passionate about finance so I just kept applying to finance jobs and eventually got into an entry level. IMO it's easier to impress people in interviews if they can see you're truly passionate about the job/field, even if you don't have great experience.

So my advice for them is to follow their passions and interests whatever those may be.
This post was edited on 11/11/24 at 9:03 am
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 9:03 am to
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Does your friend smoke much weed?
no, and they don’t drink alcohol either.
Posted by Guntoter1
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2020
1302 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 9:04 am to
PTEC school in Louisiana

2 year program then work at Chem plant.

But he better be willing to work and he needs to make that clear in the interview
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
20065 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 9:07 am to
go get some physical activity by moving boxes at FEDEX or UPS. Solid pay, great benefits and if you can show up every day there is plenty of potential to move up.
This post was edited on 11/11/24 at 12:49 pm
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 9:17 am to
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Posted by Bard
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 9:41 am to
quote:

But let’s just pretend that “friend” has a basic liberal arts degree, and no technical work skills. They’ve been a PE teacher for the past decade, and are officially burned-out.


Go to a vo-tech.
Learn plumbing, HVAC, welding or electrical work.
Graduate from vo-tech in said field.
Get a job in that field.
Work at refining skills in that field to be in more demand.
Eventually retire wealthy.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 10:00 am to
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basic liberal arts degree

Is that like a general studies degree, or does he have a more specific degree?

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They’ve been a PE teacher for the past decade,

As someone else suggested, any chance to look into changing school districts and seeing if change of scenery may help? Any desire to transition more into personal training?

What are "your friends" thoughts on additional schooling? Maybe look into what else they can do with their already existing degree to take to another level and open more doors, more education for a different teaching path (or administration), try to do something with something they are actually passionate about...
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 10:03 am to
quote:

What advice would you give to a 35yo, with zero work skills and very little education?
don't sleep on an opportunity for a widower with money
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 11:42 am to
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pets, fishing, sports/college football


Start a dog care/kennel business or find a ground floor job in a college or minor league athletic department or sports arena and work your way into something professional level.
Posted by Naked Bootleg
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 12:02 pm to
quote:

Be honest. What is the work ethic and drive of your friend? My guess is it is very low. Hard to overcome that at 35 but it is not too late.


Absolutely not too late at 35 but in addition to work ethic & drive, we'd really need to know his aptitude level and personality strengths.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 12:04 pm to
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But let’s just pretend that “friend” has a basic liberal arts degree, and no technical work skills. They’ve been a PE teacher for the past decade, and are officially burned-out.
honestly at this point have your friend do the math. But getting to retirement and then drop program may be ideal. Maybe look into other state govt agencies?
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