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Volkswagen to Pay More Than $10 Billion to Settle Emissions Claims (Updated)

Posted on 6/23/16 at 2:49 pm
Posted by RebelExpress38
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Posted on 6/23/16 at 2:49 pm
Green Car Reports

Best link I've been able to find so far with the latest info.

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BUYBACKS and LEASE TERMINATIONS FOR OWNERS

Owners who choose to let VW buy back their cars will be paid the "Clean Trade-In" value established by the National Automobile Dealers Association (NADA) as of September 2015, before the scandal broke.

That amount will be adjusted to reflect options fitted to the vehicle and mileage accrued.

Some owners will be able to have their car-loan obligations forgiven or their leases terminated without penalty.

Buybacks could start as early as this fall, or about a year after the scandal became public.


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APPROVED EMISSIONS MODIFICATIONS TO CARS NOT SOLD BACK

If owners and lessees of the affected vehicles prefer, they can wait to see whether modifications are approved to bring their cars into compliance with emissions regulations.

The chances of that happening vary with the vehicle, and are probably close to zero for the 325,000 vehicles without a Selective Catalytic Reduction (urea injection) after-treatment system fitted.

Those vehicles include all 2009-2014 Volkswagen models except the 2012-2014 Passat TDI, and the 2009-2013 Audi TDI.

he Passat TDIs and all 2015 models from VW and Audi may be fixable with modifications to their SCR systems, but the effects on performance and fuel economy are not known at this time—and won't be until any such fixes are approved by the EPA and CARB.

The modifications, which would be free, would include extended warranty terms and "lemon law" protections in states that have them.

If modifications are not approved for specific vehicles, owners can still choose to take the buyback.

It is likely that such an approval process will take considerable time, as the agencies are likely to be very, very scrupulous in inspecting the operation of the modified engines under all possible real-world circumstances.



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CASH PAYMENTS TO OWNERS (separate from Buyback/Modification choice)

The payment to owners who agree to participate in the settlement of the class-action suit is on top of, and entirely separate from, the buyback-or-modify decision.

Owners of the affected 2.0-liter diesel cars as of September 18, 2015, will be offered between $5,100 and $10,000.

The amount is established by a detailed set of calculations specified by the settlement agreement, and it cannot be reduced by lawyers' fees or other costs, which will be paid by Volkswagen.



Bloomberg

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VW will pay you the trade-in value of the car as of September 2015, before VW admitted it rigged the cars to pass emissions tests. Prices will range from $12,475 for a 2009 VW Jetta sedan to $44,176 for a 2015 Audi A3 TDI Prestige. You will get the most generous book value, and the condition of the car won’t matter. You may also have the option to have VW pay off your car loan.


https://www.vwcourtsettlement.com/en/


Estimated Settlements per car per year
This post was edited on 6/28/16 at 10:01 pm
Posted by dagrippa
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Posted on 6/23/16 at 2:56 pm to
W.o.W.
Posted by hungryone
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Posted on 6/23/16 at 3:58 pm to
I'm in the affected class, and I'm eagerly awaiting the settlement claims. I'm getting an average of 45 mpg per tank, mixed city/rural driving. I want to know how the fix will impact my MPG before I agree to it.
Posted by RebelExpress38
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Posted on 6/23/16 at 4:23 pm to
I am as well with a 2011 TDI that is a POS I'm ready to get rid of it

Posted by Golfer
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Posted on 6/23/16 at 4:25 pm to
2013 TDI. I'll take Pre Scandal value plus $5k.
Posted by achenator
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Posted on 6/23/16 at 4:26 pm to
I have that Audi Q7 TDI but it's leased so I may get a little bit. I have great mental anguish over what it's doing to the environment.
Posted by crazycubes
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Posted on 6/23/16 at 6:34 pm to
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I have great mental anguish over what it's doing to the environment.


Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 6/23/16 at 7:53 pm to
2012 TDI. I can't complain at all, but I'm ready to know exactly how and when this is going to happen. I'm not doing any fix. I'll take the buyback and cash though. Just socks because I drive 70 miles a day for work and don't know of anything that will get that mileage that I actually want to drive.
Posted by Civildawg
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Posted on 6/23/16 at 8:59 pm to
I'm ready to know what the fix is. We really like our Passat but if it kills the mpg then we are most likely going with the buyback
Posted by baobabtiger
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Posted on 6/23/16 at 9:35 pm to
What if you don't want them to be "fixed". Can you leave them alone?
Posted by wickowick
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Posted on 6/23/16 at 10:12 pm to
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What if you don't want them to be "fixed". Can you leave them alone?


I don't think they have a fix.
Posted by hungryone
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Posted on 6/24/16 at 4:55 am to
No fix yet approved by US regulators. Older cars prob won't have a fix at all.
Posted by Pmurda3
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Posted on 6/26/16 at 1:04 pm to
Pardon my ignorance... my mother has a 2014 beetle. The car has been giving her some trouble. We were about to trade it in. Do you have to submit any paperwork to the dealer on order to participate in the settlement? Or how does that work exactly? Any ideas? Thanks.
Posted by RebelExpress38
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Posted on 6/26/16 at 1:17 pm to
I would start here and just read everything. Tuesday we will know for sure what to do


https://www.vwdieselinfo.com
Posted by cave canem
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Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:19 am to
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What if you don't want them to be "fixed". Can you leave them alone?


The fix will be very easy to unfix. If you like your car let them reprogram it, take the cash, and them buy a tuner from KERMA TDI, you will get better power and MPG than you do now and in most cases be rid of Ad-blue forever on the newer models.

ETA link

This post was edited on 6/27/16 at 1:27 am
Posted by AUCE05
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Posted on 6/27/16 at 9:21 am to
I think part of the problem was your car is lying to you, and you aren't really getting 45 mpgs.
Posted by wickowick
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Posted on 6/27/16 at 9:27 am to
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I think part of the problem was your car is lying to you, and you aren't really getting 45 mpgs.


That isn't the problem, I have verified my MGP, it was 45+
Posted by hungryone
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Posted on 6/27/16 at 2:54 pm to
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That isn't the problem, I have verified my MGP, it was 45+

Agree--I manually compute my average mileage per tank, and I get 42 with mostly city driving, 45-48+ when it's mixed or mostly distance/interstate driving. I can handle a small dip in average MPG with the fix. AdBlue costs $8 for a 2.5 gallon container, which lasts at least 10K miles at present factory chip settings.

Right now, I'm keeping the car (2015), opting for the upgrade plus the cash. If VW can fix it quickly, I'll see how the mileage goes, post-fix. As long as it stays above 35-38 in the city, I'm a happy camper. I'll be a REALLY happy camper if VW hands me a check for $10K.
Posted by wickowick
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Posted on 6/27/16 at 9:55 pm to
Volkswagen to Pay $14.7 Billion to Settle Diesel Claims in U.S.

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The proposed settlement involving the federal government and lawyers for the owners of about 475,000 Volkswagen vehicles, includes a maximum of $10.03 billion to buy back affected cars at their pre-scandal values, and additional cash compensation for the owners, according to two people briefed on the settlement’s terms.

The cash compensation offered to each car owner will range from $5,100 to $10,000. Both the buyback price and amount of the additional compensation will depend on the cars’ value before Volkswagen’s public admission last September that its supposed “clean diesel” cars had been deliberately designed to cheat on air-quality tests.


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Rather than sell their vehicles back to Volkswagen, car owners in the United States can also choose to have their vehicles fixed to meet emissions standards, although doing so would probably reduce the engines’ performance and gas mileage. And the methods for fixing the vehicles that Volkswagen has proposed are still subject to approval by the Environmental Protection Agency, one of the federal parties to the case.


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Volkswagen will also compensate previous owners who may have sold their diesel vehicles after the cheating became known last year — but at only half the rate of the compensation being offered to current car owners.


Posted by RebelExpress38
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 6:48 am to
Anyone know what time they are officially announcing everything?
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