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re: Tulane Law
Posted on 3/1/25 at 12:19 pm to TheWalrus
Posted on 3/1/25 at 12:19 pm to TheWalrus
quote:Indeed.
I almost made that mistake going to UVA, thank goodness I wised up, that kind of debt is crushing
Kid had an interview with T-14 school, waiting for decision. Wouldn’t be much, if any, scholly. Great name, great debt. This is why we are looking at lower ranked schools offering $. Kid is a go getter, he networks. I’d rather him take on less debt with a lesser brand name. He’s got decent options.
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Posted on 3/3/25 at 7:14 am to Maxx99
Two things:
If your son wants to practice in that very niche field, he should go to a school with a strong alumni base in that particular field. I’d be skeptical that Tulane has a strong base of sports and entertainment law lawyers. He’d likely be better off in California or NYC.
Second, the legal market is a lot stronger for young lawyers than it was ten years ago. If your son ends up in the right market and has good/decent grades, he’ll be making an income that is worth the debt. Litigation is very strong right now with lots of boomers retiring and firms expanding.
If your son wants to practice in that very niche field, he should go to a school with a strong alumni base in that particular field. I’d be skeptical that Tulane has a strong base of sports and entertainment law lawyers. He’d likely be better off in California or NYC.
Second, the legal market is a lot stronger for young lawyers than it was ten years ago. If your son ends up in the right market and has good/decent grades, he’ll be making an income that is worth the debt. Litigation is very strong right now with lots of boomers retiring and firms expanding.
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:02 am to Maxx99
It’s a really good sports law program. With that said, it’s a very difficult and unrealistic path to biglaw. The only biglaw around is in Houston or Dallas. And there are 8-9 schools in Texas that would place students better in Texas than Tulane will. Could try to go to NYC, but will likely need a tie there. Again, there are dozens of schools that will place better in NYC than Tulane will. Many with similar entrance requirements and costs.
Sports/entertainment isn’t a very common biglaw field. Plenty of biglaw firms don’t even have a department.
And if he doesn’t like blow yet, he will in that curriculum at Tulane.
Sports/entertainment isn’t a very common biglaw field. Plenty of biglaw firms don’t even have a department.
And if he doesn’t like blow yet, he will in that curriculum at Tulane.
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:11 am to Maxx99
quote:
Indeed. Kid had an interview with T-14 school, waiting for decision. Wouldn’t be much, if any, scholly. Great name, great debt. This is why we are looking at lower ranked schools offering $. Kid is a go getter, he networks. I’d rather him take on less debt with a lesser brand name. He’s got decent options.
Take it from someone who fits very closely with this position and is 5-10 years out. If he wants to be a lawyer, go T-14. If he isn’t positive he wants to be a lawyer, don’t go to law school. Or go be a secretary/assistant at a V20 in a big market for a year.
Posted on 3/3/25 at 12:17 pm to TheWalrus
Are yall Jewish?
Posted on 3/3/25 at 1:29 pm to Maxx99
Get him in LSU. Those “good schollies” aren’t what you think. And, you have to house him in NO.
Posted on 3/3/25 at 2:32 pm to Maxx99
Are the higher ranked schools he’s gotten into cheaper and in the location of the places he wants to practice?
Posted on 3/3/25 at 3:09 pm to OTIS2
78th ranked law school
48% acceptance rate
Tulane graduate programs aren't nearly as good as their undergrad, which is decent, but not elite.
48% acceptance rate
Tulane graduate programs aren't nearly as good as their undergrad, which is decent, but not elite.
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:37 pm to theOG
quote:
Are the higher ranked schools he’s gotten into cheaper and in the location of the places he wants to practice?
Yes for a couple of schools from a sticker price perspective. We are waiting on schollies for a fair comparison.
The T-14, we are waiting on his admission decision and that school would likely be sticker price and a higher cost of living than most of his other choices.
Posted on 3/4/25 at 7:33 am to Maxx99
What is his undergrad degree?
I see more and more younger people have a law degree but don’t practice. They simply use the degree to supplement their engineering, accounting, bio science degree.
All I can add at this point, don’t go into debt for law school. Statistically, it ain’t worth it.
I see more and more younger people have a law degree but don’t practice. They simply use the degree to supplement their engineering, accounting, bio science degree.
All I can add at this point, don’t go into debt for law school. Statistically, it ain’t worth it.
Posted on 3/4/25 at 7:47 am to NIH
quote:
If your son wants to practice in that very niche field, he should go to a school with a strong alumni base in that particular field. I’d be skeptical that Tulane has a strong base of sports and entertainment law lawyers. He’d likely be better off in California or NYC.
I just ran it through Gemini and they gave the usual suspects:
quote:
Harvard University
Stanford University
University of Michigan
UCLA.
USC.
If you're not getting into them, and getting a JD-MBA, I wouldn't expect to get in with any of the big boys.
I also saw Kansas (lol) claim to have an elite Sports Law/Management program.
Posted on 3/4/25 at 2:24 pm to Maxx99
Usually, I would say, go to the highest ranked school you can get into in the state you want to live in after law school. The one exception would be attending a lower-ranked, well-regarded law school within the state because a scholarship makes it worth it. However, if your child wants to practice big law in NY, their best bet is to attend a T14 law school, or the highest ranked school they are accepted to, and then consider getting an LLM from a higher ranked school after graduating. It's not impossible to work in big law in NY without graduating from one of the T14, but doing so makes it much more manageable.
Posted on 3/4/25 at 2:36 pm to Maxx99
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Either NY or TX big law.
T14 or bust. Keep taking the LSAT until you can get a decent scholarship at one of those.
This post was edited on 3/4/25 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 3/4/25 at 8:32 pm to Sl0thstronautEsq
It really is an excellent program and an enjoyable law school experience that does place top students in big law jobs. In fact NYC and Houston /Dallas are allowed to interview top students weeks before Louisiana firms are allowed on campus to interview. Below is a link to the upcoming sports and entertainment law conference at Tulane. Your kid should attend, if possible.
LINK
LINK
Posted on 3/4/25 at 11:43 pm to KillTheGophers
quote:
What is his undergrad degree?
The ubiquitous Poli Sci.
He lurks on the PT board and occasionally posts there.
Posted on 3/5/25 at 12:52 pm to Maxx99
quote:
Probably would not stay in LA after law school. Either NY or TX big law.
I applaud him having big dreams, but every gunner at every school in the country wants that. That said, I've had two interns from Tulane law who ended up going into big law in Houston, but they busted their arse to get there. So it is very possible, just need to have a contingency plan. I typically like hiring Tulane interns/grads in the NOLA area because they are excellent writers, and really of the ~15 I have hired only 2 haven't been extremely hard workers.
quote:
Got a really decent scholly. Has other offers from higher ranked schools.
My advice is go to the school with best bar passage rate that will result in him having the lowest amount of loans.
Posted on 3/5/25 at 2:31 pm to lionward2014
quote:Why this metric specifically?
best bar passage rate
Posted on 3/5/25 at 2:34 pm to Sl0thstronautEsq
quote:This. If he’s struggling with his score, take a prep course. Heck, take one if he’s not struggling unless he’s already in the 170s.
Keep taking the LSAT until you can get a decent scholarship at one of those.
They’re expensive, but $2k now is way better than $150k later
Posted on 3/5/25 at 4:56 pm to Maxx99
quote:
Wants to pursue Sports & Entertainment Law
LOL
try to steer him towards something realistic
Posted on 3/5/25 at 5:40 pm to AllbyMyRelf
quote:His LSAT is 90th % but every point thereafter seems to be tougher and tougher to reach. I agree, I told him to take a gap year and get that score up. It does not help him that this cycle saw a 20% increase in apps with substantial proportion of applicants with 165+ scores.
This. If he’s struggling with his score, take a prep course. Heck, take one if he’s not struggling unless he’s already in the 170s.
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