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Trump commutes 7-year sentence of PE leader David Gentile who defrauded people of $1.6B

Posted on 12/1/25 at 3:51 pm
Posted by rickgrimes
Member since Jan 2011
4319 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 3:51 pm


Why? I mean really, why? Presidential pardons need to be abolished. They serve no purpose in the 21st century.
This post was edited on 12/2/25 at 4:51 pm
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
51340 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 5:28 pm to
Like CZ, I am sure Trump will say he does not know him but told he was a good guy
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
21319 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:11 pm to
It looks like there may be solid ground for this action. Here is a relatively objective Reuters article

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This post was edited on 12/1/25 at 6:12 pm
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
51340 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 7:29 pm to
So they told investors they were running an illegal ponzi scheme so that makes it ok.

Even though there are over 1k people who say otherwise

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In 2015 and 2016, the defendants, with their co-conspirators, used fraudulent, back-dated “performance guarantees” to artificially inflate the income of Holdings I and GPB AP. The performance guarantees were executed by GPB operating partner Jeffrey Lash for certain dealerships owned by the funds and falsely represented that Lash had agreed to cover a shortfall in profits at the dealerships. In or about March 2015, at the direction of the defendants, Lash executed two performance guarantees falsely representing that he had agreed to cover a shortfall in profits at two dealerships owned by Holdings I for audit year 2014. In April 2016, the defendants and Lash executed another fraudulent performance guarantee for a dealership owned by GPB AP for audit year 2015. Gentile then routed funds from another GPB-owned fund through Lash’s accounts to create the appearance that the performance guarantee had been paid. Holdings I and GPB AP booked the fraudulent performance guarantees in their audited financial statements, artificially inflating the funds’ returns as presented to investors for 2014 and 2015 respectively. After fraudulently inflating their audited financial statements, the GPB Funds raised approximately $1 billion from investors.


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Between approximately August 2015 and December 2018, the defendants also misrepresented the source of the monthly distributions paid to investors.  Specifically, the defendants represented to investors and prospective investors that GPB would pay monthly distributions from income generated by portfolio companies when in fact they used investor capital to cover a significant share of the distributions paid by the GPB Funds.  At the direction of the defendants, the GPB Funds used approximately $100 million in investor capital to cover distributions to investors and maintain the Funds’ distribution rates.   


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Lash, the defendants’ co-conspirator, pleaded guilty to wire fraud in 2023 and will be sentenced at a later date.


Other guy pleaded guilty.

Guy was convicted by jury
This post was edited on 12/1/25 at 7:35 pm
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
21319 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 8:15 pm to
There was more to it than that.
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
51340 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 8:25 pm to
Yeah it was a conspiracy against them... That's why he pleaded guilty
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28207 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 8:56 pm to
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Why?


Really? Trump is getting paid millions for pardons.
Posted by hikingfan
Member since Jun 2013
1757 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 9:46 pm to
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Really? Trump is getting paid millions for pardons.

Now imagine if it was a Democrat in the White House doing this. The Poli board would have lost its collective minds. But since it is their guy, it's crickets everywhere.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28207 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 8:46 am to
Its all going to come around and in fact its already started.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
46465 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 8:53 am to
one day in the future this administration will rightly be known as the worst global racketeering scheme ever devised and executed. All the while being cheered on by people who have been brainwashed into victimhood
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21794 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 10:38 am to
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one day in the future this administration will rightly be known as the worst global racketeering scheme ever devised and executed.

Maybe. Maybe not. Democrats have set a pretty tall hurdle here.

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All the while being cheered on by people who have been brainwashed into victimhood

The vast majority of Trump voters are not brainwashed, do not see themselves as victims, and don't cheer Trump nonsense or grift - and they also say a prayer of thanks every morning and every night that a whackjob Democrat does not occupy the oval office.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31532 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 10:47 am to
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The vast majority of Trump voters are not brainwashed, do not see themselves as victims, and don't cheer Trump nonsense or grift

Ok, now this is funny
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and they also say a prayer of thanks every morning and every night that a whackjob Democrat does not occupy the oval office.

That's an easy cop out; Republicans overwhelmingly supported Trump as the Republican nominee. Here is your list:

Republican Donald Trump 17,015,756 76.42%
Republican Nikki Haley 4,381,799 19.68%
Republican Ron DeSantis 353,615 1.59%
Republican Chris Christie 139,541 0.63%
Republican Vivek Ramaswamy 96,954 0.44%
Republican Asa Hutchinson 22,044 0.10%
Republican Perry Johnson 4,051 0.02%
Republican Tim Scott 1,598 0.01%
Republican Doug Burgum 502 0.00%
Republican Mike Pence 404 0.00%

Now, you're welcome to defend Trump against them all, but only defending him against a hypothetical Harris presidency is disingenuous at best.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21794 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 11:13 am to
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Ok, now this is funny

Laugh if you want but I think you're paying too much attention to the vocal faction of MAGA. There were a shite ton of voters from the (wide) middle that sprinted to the polls for Trump in '24 to reject that crazies on the Left that have taken over the Democrat party.

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That's an easy cop out; Republicans overwhelmingly supported Trump as the Republican nominee.

Now, you're welcome to defend Trump against them all, but only defending him against a hypothetical Harris presidency is disingenuous at best.

Nothing disingenuous about it at all.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31532 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 11:56 am to
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Laugh if you want but I think you're paying too much attention to the vocal faction of MAGA. There were a shite ton of voters from the (wide) middle that sprinted to the polls for Trump in '24 to reject that crazies on the Left that have taken over the Democrat party.

They sprinted to Trump in the primaries first. You don't get to ignore that in order to pretend that Trump was always the only option. Republicans, en masse, felt victimized in the culture wars and chose the loud mouthed strongman to be their champion. Just own it: the good, bad, and ugly.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21794 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 12:04 pm to
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They sprinted to Trump in the primaries first.

Trump votes in the primaries prior to his opponents dropping out...what, 12-14 million?

Trump votes v. Harris - 77 million

And even in primaries - you don't think voters vote for candidates they think have the best chance to win rather than the person they think would be a better president?

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You don't get to ignore that in order to pretend that Trump was always the only option.

You forget the role Dems played in making Trump unstoppable in the primaries.

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Republicans, en masse, felt victimized in the culture wars and chose the loud mouthed strongman to be their champion.

Victimized how? Be specific.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31532 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 12:11 pm to
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Trump votes in the primaries prior to his opponents dropping out...what, 12-14 million?

Trump votes v. Harris - 77 million

And even in primaries - you don't think voters vote for candidates they think have the best chance to win rather than the person they think would be a better president?


I think we're having an issue with terms. I don't view someone who held their nose and voted for Trump because they didn't like Harris as "MAGA". Do you? When I talk about MAGA, I'm talking about his core base of what I would say is 25-30% of the electorate.
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Victimized how? Be specific.

MAGA has absolutely joined the victimhood olympics, and their grievances are legion. But you know that already. With that said, to play ball, here's one specific example: they will tell you, repeatedly, that Christians are by far the most persecuted group in this country, and that it's not close.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21794 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 12:30 pm to
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When I talk about MAGA, I'm talking about his core base of what I would say is 25-30% of the electorate.

The electorate is about 30% Republican, so you are arguing about 100% of Republicans are wild-eyed Trump fans. That's crazy, or you didn't mean to type out "electorate" - in which case, if you're arguing 25% of Republicans are what you're describing, then I'd say that's about right. I'd argue it's closer to 20% and maybe a bit lower, but you're at least in the ballpark at 25%.

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MAGA has absolutely joined the victimhood olympics, and their grievances are legion. But you know that already.

I don't know what you're talking about. To be clear, I'm looking for a "majority of Trump voters" feeling victimized about something.

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With that said, to play ball, here's one specific example: they will tell you, repeatedly, that Christians are by far the most persecuted group in this country, and that it's not close.

I don't think the majority of Trump voters see Christians as persecuted. I don't think they see any group in America as truly persecuted.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 12:58 pm to
He has a place in his heart for the scammers who bilked millions. Not 1st or 2nd. Scammer he's given. Pardon to
Posted by Tmcgin
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2010
6364 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 4:05 pm to
Pay Don jr with crypto-- Pass thru the gates

Nothing to see here---move along
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
10710 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 9:58 pm to
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Why? I mean really, why? Presidential pardons need to be abolished. They serve no purpose in the 21st century.


Well, when you have the biggest grifter in the USA as the sitting president what do you expect??
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