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re: The V-shaped recovery is well and truly on its way

Posted on 4/7/20 at 9:06 am to
Posted by LSUFrosty
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 4/7/20 at 9:06 am to
This is your warning! Now that I'm officially supporting the climb, get ready for a big drop.
Posted by Chef Free Gold Bloom
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Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 4/7/20 at 9:37 am to
I’m on the buy the dips philosophy until we get back to work as a country.

I’m very tempted to try to buy low and sell high as we ride the waves the next few week but I can’t bring myself to risk it
This post was edited on 4/7/20 at 9:38 am
Posted by Bamadoc
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Member since Jan 2014
3985 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 9:44 am to
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This is your warning! Now that I'm officially supporting the climb, get ready for a big drop.


damn, you were right.
Posted by LSUFrosty
Member since Jan 2012
1861 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 9:51 am to
Dude, FML. It's uncanny how I can always decide when to buy and it peaks, and when I capitulate, it starts climbing back.

My BA call buy yesterday was the outlier. Unloaded that this morning for a tidy profit.
Posted by Lgrnwd
Member since Jan 2018
5215 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 9:54 am to
It’s shaking out weak hands who just jumped on the bandwagon.

IF it fills that gap intraday then goes on to close higher, it will be very supportive of higher prices for the next couple of days.
Posted by buffbraz
Member since Nov 2005
5673 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:06 am to
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I've been sitting on $200k in cash from a house sale for a year, so I'm watching this thing very closely.


Just curious, if you believe ( you may not) that the market will recover at some point in the future, what are you waiting for? Timing this market does not seem feasible, not that it ever was in the first place.
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:19 am to
There's still a lof of economic damage on the back end of this that we do not currently have a grasp of. Of course, Powell could just fire up the money printers again and make it all go away artificially but everything was affected and some of the damage will lag and not show up for months potentially.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:26 am to
But at this point isn't a lot of that already baked-in?

We all know 1Q profits are going to suck, but the way this market is working, and with so much government intervention, it may not matter on a broad scale. Look at the horrible unemployment numbers-the markets didn't even blink and went up.
This post was edited on 4/7/20 at 10:27 am
Posted by Tigers4life
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Member since May 2004
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Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:27 am to
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Timing this market does not seem feasible, not that it ever was in the first place.




I beg to differ...some people are very profitable timing this market.
Posted by Lgrnwd
Member since Jan 2018
5215 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:35 am to
Timing it EXACTLY is not feasible. Timing it “close enough” to maximize profits and limit losses, is very doable. But it is not something you are going to learn to do overnight.
Posted by rotrain
Member since Feb 2013
390 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:36 am to
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The market is looking way ahead of what is happening now.


You sure about that? The market wasnt looking way ahead in mid february when this shite was already known to be spreading around the world. The market wasnt even looking a week ahead.

Im not a supporter of “the market is always right” tenet. The market appears to be wrong quite often from my view.
Posted by buffbraz
Member since Nov 2005
5673 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:37 am to
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I beg to differ...some people are very profitable timing this market.



I wish you luck. I prefer to continue investing according to our long term plan and enjoy buying our shares cheaper than usual. We are long term, stay the course investors. Intraday trading I’m sure is completely different.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:38 am to
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But at this point isn't a lot of that already baked-in?


highly doubtful but that is debatable, i suppose

the economic impact of coronavirus is being wildly underestimated right now imo

Posted by Tigers4life
The great US of A
Member since May 2004
1865 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:45 am to
Took me a few years to become consistently profitable but it was well worth it in the end if that's your thing.
Posted by rotrain
Member since Feb 2013
390 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:50 am to
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But at this point isn't a lot of that already baked-in?



S and P is near early 2019 levels. At that time did we have buybacks taken off the table, dividend cuts, potential sector specific bankruptcies, and known revenue risk at unknown levels? Nothing is “baked in” because no one knows or can quantify the numbers on how this plays out over the next 2 years. Example: can you tell me what new orleans tourism demand will be in 9 months as a percentage of what it was? Even if the shutdowns end... do people feel comfotable spending money on a trip? Eating out? Etc. and do they feel as liberal about the cash in their wallet as they did in 2019? Can all of those nola restaurants stay open without downsizing staff?

So many questions with zero answers. I mean zero. No one has the answers to this... not day traders or hedge fund managers. Movements happening now in the market is sheer speculation, hope, and technical based trading. There are no fundamentals in the market right now until we start getting some data in.
Posted by Tri City Tigers
Member since Oct 2018
2343 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:51 am to
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But at this point isn't a lot of that already baked-in?



A lot of unknowns on how people are going to react once this thing ends. Will some people avoid traveling and eating in restaurants less? Possibly. I can only be cautiously optimistic.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:53 am to
indeed, and not to get all sociologist on here, but if ~70% of Americans do not have $1k saved to prepare for an emergency, that is a systematic failure.

i don't think anyone can speculate what the new normal might be, which is why it is hard for me to be "all-in" when there is so much uncertainty ahead
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167183 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 11:01 am to
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But at this point isn't a lot of that already baked-in?


How can they "bake in" the unknown?
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4581 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 11:04 am to
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How can they "bake in" the unknown?


Bc it “buys the rumor” and “sells the news.”
This post was edited on 4/7/20 at 11:05 am
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38701 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 11:08 am to
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Nothing is “baked in” because no one knows or can quantify the numbers on how this plays out over the next 2 years. Example: can you tell me what new orleans tourism demand will be in 9 months as a percentage of what it was? Even if the shutdowns end... do people feel comfotable spending money on a trip? Eating out? Etc. and do they feel as liberal about the cash in their wallet as they did in 2019? Can all of those nola restaurants stay open without downsizing staff?

you are talking about the economy.
must different scenario among the various investment markets
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