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Posted on 6/19/22 at 1:24 am
Posted by 197603apf
Member since Sep 2021
119 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 1:24 am
Gas prices are a direct reflection of Biden shutting down 11 refineries in his first year. Shell Convent being 1 of them. We have plenty oil to refine but cannot get gas/diesel out fast enough. Had those refineries not been shut down we would have more availability and prices go down. They wanted to go all in on going green and not make a slow transition. It’s killing us. Just remember that in November and in 2024.
Posted by DotBling
Member since Oct 2019
3166 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 3:41 am to
High gas prices were planned, no doubt. They want this.
Posted by LSUSLU106
Member since Mar 2015
696 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 5:18 am to
All planned for sure. Biden and his policies certainly hurt what is going on but its ESG which is the main problem!
Posted by iron banks
Destrehan
Member since Jul 2014
4179 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 5:58 am to
You are 100% correct. It is more the inability to make fuel than pump oil at this time. Thee is no short term fix. No company is going to build a new refinery with the insane regulations and green attitude of big government. We are screwed.
Posted by TeaParty
Member since May 2022
935 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 7:32 am to
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Gas prices are a direct reflection of Biden shutting down 11 refineries in his first year. Shell Convent being 1 of them


Please tell me how Biden Shut Down 11 refineries. I know he did the pipelines construction and stopped lease sales. But exactly how did he sd refineries. I don't want to be in a conversation and say this and some one ask me how. I have nothing. A link will be fine.

I see this article but nothing about refineries

Biden SD Ketone and release rom Stategic reserves

There is this about refineries sd due to rules already in place for a while just catching up
This post was edited on 6/19/22 at 7:41 am
Posted by GrizzlyAlloy
Member since Aug 2020
2581 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 7:44 am to
I heard Convent was reopening as bio diesel.
Posted by KillTheGophers
Member since Jan 2016
6748 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 7:56 am to
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Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
4335 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 8:00 am to
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Please tell me how Biden Shut Down 11 refineries.
I think the most you can say is that his Administration's stance on oil makes the business environment unfriendly and more difficult to invest in O&G. If there were some tough decisions around investment then, given the environment, they punted. See Exxon's recent statement on what his Administration could do to help O&G producers.
Posted by flvelo12
Palm Harbor, Florida
Member since Jan 2012
3563 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 8:50 am to
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Just remember that in November and in 2024.

47% won't for sure. Or the "81 million".
Posted by sawtooth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2017
3588 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 9:39 am to
The strict Covid restrictions placed on the citizens by the government (federal, state, and local) caused a dramatic decrease in fuel usage. This caused oil to actually go negative and made it impossible to operate a refinery without a loss.

Many of the smaller refineries had to shutdown and never started back up. They may with the current price of gas but it will take time.
Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
2275 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 9:41 am to
This 100%.
Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
2275 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 9:47 am to
I see the comment about taking time to restart. It also takes investment. Investment isn’t available due to ESG. Therefore, no gas.

Who knows? In 100 years we may look back and say this saved the planet. I doubt it, but this is part of that movement. This post isn’t political — I’m not taking sides. But this “pain at the pump” is an undeniable part of the process, whether this movement is legitimate or not.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61334 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 10:04 am to
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Biden shutting down 11 refineries in his first year.


I hate Biden as much as anyone, but this simply not true
Posted by TeaParty
Member since May 2022
935 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 11:05 am to
This started under Trump

quote:

The strict Covid restrictions placed on the citizens by the government (federal, state, and local) caused a dramatic decrease in fuel usage. This caused oil to actually go negative and made it impossible to operate a refinery without a loss.

Many of the smaller refineries had to shutdown and never started back up. They may with the current price of gas but it will take time.


Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22628 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 11:15 am to
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They want this.
A word to the wise… You better believe this… 100%. The stuff doesn’t just fall out of the sky. It’s deliberate. The country is being hijacked. The 2020 election was just the first step.

We all owe Joe McCarthy an apology.

“The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation.”

Vladimir Lenin

Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
58529 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 11:38 am to
Republicans are never gonna win another election
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20582 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 12:00 pm to
You joke but they are already setting everyone for the midterms and how the Dems will take seats in the senate.
Posted by FinleyStreet
Member since Aug 2011
8000 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

Gas prices are a direct reflection of Biden shutting down 11 refineries in his first year.


Source?
Posted by CecilShortsHisPants
One Foty Fo uh uh Magnolia Screet
Member since Oct 2012
3710 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 1:33 pm to
Gaucho’s right, their plan is to secretly abolish the electoral college, thus ensuring we’ll never see another Republican in office. Wake up sheeple!
Posted by CecilShortsHisPants
One Foty Fo uh uh Magnolia Screet
Member since Oct 2012
3710 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 1:41 pm to
They even got the national weather center tampering with weather instruments and expect us to believe its 103 degrees in Fargo, North Dakota right now.
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