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re: Talk me out of a 401k loan

Posted on 8/16/25 at 8:14 am to
Posted by hiltacular
NYC
Member since Jan 2011
20095 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 8:14 am to
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business investment? great. for a damn car? F no.


100%.I am okay with doing literally anything if the investment outperforms the cost but I would not take out a 401k loan for a car. I would tell my kid to get a job.
This post was edited on 8/16/25 at 8:15 am
Posted by xBirdx
Member since Sep 2018
2139 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:12 am to
Yes understand this.. but don’t have an extra $10-15k laying around unfortunately
Posted by xBirdx
Member since Sep 2018
2139 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:16 am to
Thanks for everyone’s input.

Won’t be touching the 401k, which was my initial thought and how I’ve always felt:

Just wanted to get some “experts” opinions…
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
52864 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:32 am to
Speaking from experience, get the kid an older vehicle, at least for a year or two. I'm talking a 10-15 yr old one with a 100k+ miles on it. Maybe consider something a little bit newer when they go off to college etc if you can afford it.
Posted by tigerbacon
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2010
4442 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:56 am to
Why do you need to buy a kid a car? Simply you don’t. Especially don’t do it if you can’t afford it and taking from your 401k is the worst idea ever and means your can’t afford it.
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
18874 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 10:46 am to
Another reason everyone needs liquidity before stuffing an IRC section 401(K). That retirement becomes a target for deprecating-asset purchases.
Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
4962 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 11:15 am to
There's an additional tax I believe too. This is a horrendous idea.
Posted by GCTigahs
Member since Oct 2014
2427 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 11:48 am to
quote:

Speaking from experience, get the kid an older vehicle, at least for a year or two. I'm talking a 10-15 yr old one with a 100k+ miles on it. Maybe consider something a little bit newer when they go off to college etc if you can afford it


I just went to Car Gurus and searched for a used Accord under $13K with 120,000 miles or less within 100 miles of me. Had 21 cars pop up. I'm with the Fallguy on this one.
Posted by The Pickwick
Member since Jan 2025
451 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 12:28 pm to
There are a lot of companies offering 0% interest car loans right now. Why would you take out a loan at 7% if you can get one for 0%
This post was edited on 8/16/25 at 12:40 pm
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
52864 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 12:54 pm to
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I'm with the Fallguy on this one.

Both of mine popped tires, hit curbs, got into accidents within their first 2 years of driving. Both turned out to be decent drivers with a little bit of experience. We provided each of them with one newer vehicle around age 18.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
85840 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 1:27 pm to
The biggest issue is the fact that moving forward you'll consider that money as "accessible." Can of worms kinda thing.

Second issue is getting tight and potentially cut into your contributions to pay the loan.
Posted by snakanator
Member since Sep 2010
699 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 1:55 pm to
Don’t use appreciating assets to buy depreciating assets. That’s the golden rule.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61230 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 2:20 pm to
quote:

There are a lot of companies offering 0% interest car loans right now.


Name them.
Posted by The Pickwick
Member since Jan 2025
451 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 2:49 pm to
GM, Nissan, Jeep, Hyundai, Ford, Lincoln
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
87495 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

There's an additional tax I believe too.


no there is not.

When you take a loan from your 401(k),
it is generally not considered a taxable distribution, provided you repay it according to the terms set by your plan and the IRS. This means you don't pay immediate taxes or penalties on the borrowed amount itself, which is a key advantage compared to a 401(k) withdrawal.
Posted by gpburdell
ATL
Member since Jun 2015
1575 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 4:46 pm to
Besides all the stuff already mentioned with opportunity cost. With a 401k loan, If you leave your company (voluntarily or not), you could be forced to pay off the loan very quickly like within 30 days. That is up to each 401k plan to decide.

I took out a 401k loan when I bought my current house. Did this so didn't have to sell the old house beforehand. Even though I left that company, I had 10 years to pay it off which I had verified beforehand.


Posted by xBirdx
Member since Sep 2018
2139 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 5:00 pm to
I don’t know if any place giving 0% on used cars. I’d love to hear where..
Posted by xBirdx
Member since Sep 2018
2139 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 5:03 pm to
Why do I need to buy them a car…?

Is this a serious question… I guess “need “ can be interpreted differently…

But for transportation to answer your question.

I can afford a payment , obviously. Was just wondering the pros and cons of a 401k loan , as I am. It real familiar .
Posted by The Pickwick
Member since Jan 2025
451 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 5:12 pm to
quote:

I don’t know if any place giving 0% on used cars. I’d love to hear where..


After reading your original post, I didn’t know you wanted a loan for a used car. My bad
Posted by xBirdx
Member since Sep 2018
2139 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 6:10 pm to
No worries../ I didn’t think there was that out there, but if so I had to know!
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