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So, Ken Griffin's Citadel files a 13F with $428 Trillion of sold not yet purchased....

Posted on 3/1/23 at 5:12 pm
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 3/1/23 at 5:12 pm
They later in the morning refile to correct it.



https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/11fda3o/citadel_owner_of_the_worlds_largest_market_maker/

What a damn shite show, and they are the largest "Market Maker". That doesn't render much faith in our stock market, does it?
Posted by AndyJ
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Posted on 3/1/23 at 5:41 pm to
I probably speak for many of us when I say, “I have no idea what this means. But please enlighten me”
Posted by UltimaParadox
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Posted on 3/1/23 at 5:42 pm to
Non story, something that has already been corrected.

But conspiracy theorists think this will pump the heavy bags of meme, crypto assets.
This post was edited on 3/1/23 at 5:43 pm
Posted by MusclesofBrussels
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 3/1/23 at 6:09 pm to
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conspiracy theorists


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reddit.com/r/Superstonk


nailed it
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 3/1/23 at 6:12 pm to
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Non story, something that has already been corrected.

But conspiracy theorists think this will pump the heavy bags of meme, crypto assets.



The Trillion Dollar part was adjusted down to the 428 Billion that Citadel has sold... but not yet bought. How the Hell do you see that as a non-story?

How can they sell that much that they do not own? (naked short selling)
Why is it legal? (it isn't)
What is this in relation to Bernie Madoff Ponzi schemes and FTX fiasco? (it is many order of magnitude worse)

But, you keep mocking and burying your head under your pillow.


btw, GameStop isn't a meme. It is a legit company with sound business plan and process in place. It is a true Deep fricking Value. As far as crypto, I have less than 100 bucks in it and no longer even a cent in bitcoin. If you have to go crypto, Etherium is probably the best choice.
This post was edited on 3/1/23 at 6:16 pm
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 3/1/23 at 6:13 pm to
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nailed it


So, the 438 billion of sold but not purchased on Citadel's 13F today wasn't real? It was just a conspiracy!!!! reeeh
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 3/1/23 at 6:18 pm to
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please enlighten me


It means Citadel is f'kd and likely a large part of our market. This makes FTX seem like a sidewalk shell game.
Posted by MusclesofBrussels
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 3/1/23 at 6:56 pm to
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btw, GameStop isn't a meme. It is a legit company with sound business plan and process in place. It is a true Deep fricking Value.


Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 3/1/23 at 7:30 pm to
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428 Billion that Citadel has sold... but not yet bought
Where do you see that on the image you posted?

Here is a link to Citadel Advisor's form 13F and it says nothing about "sold but not yet bought." LINK

And the error on the form was the "thousands" part. The corrected filing shows the amount is in dollars, not thousands of dollars. So someone mistakenly put "thousands" instead of "rounded to nearest dollar." Not such a big deal as you seem to make it out to be.

Of course you're the guy who started a thread on the Political Board about the Federal Reserve "giving" $9.3 billion" to Switzerland last October and claimed it meant Switzerland was about to "experience a Lehman Brothers moment" (LINK) when actually the Fed didn't send any money to Switzerland but had entered into a liquidity swap agreement, Swiss francs for U.S. dollars, with the Swiss central bank which I explained to you and after which you promptly disappeared from the thread.

I hoped you had learned your lesson about making financial threads which you didn't understand.
This post was edited on 3/1/23 at 7:34 pm
Posted by slackster
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 3/1/23 at 7:31 pm to
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The Trillion Dollar part was adjusted down to the 428 Billion that Citadel has sold... but not yet bought. How the Hell do you see that as a non-story? How can they sell that much that they do not own? (naked short selling) Why is it legal? (it isn't)

What’s more likely?

They’re committing securities violations in broad daylight with 13F filings that are publicly available?

Or

You don’t understand what any of that actually means?
Posted by slackster
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 3/1/23 at 7:32 pm to
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I hoped you had learned your lesson about making financial threads which you didn't understand.


Lulz
Posted by KillTheGophers
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 3/1/23 at 7:48 pm to
Filings get messed up more than the average person would ever realize - 80% are caught internally and corrected after a call to the regulator.

10% are found by internal or external audit.

5% found by investor inquiry

5% by regulator

It is usually no biggie at all - much is automated but there is still the human factor.

I would not lose any sleep - and the “sold but not purchased” does not give me any pause for concern. 1) I just read through and did not see any material disclosure like that 2) if it is reported, no biggie - companies like that float all the time - depends on risk tolerance.

There is a reason employees make big, big money - it ain’t for filing - it is for risk oversight and strategic capital allocation.

THE FILING IS NEVER THE CRIME.

It is always the off the books crap that will burn down a company paired with lack of disclosure - this looks to be incorrect over disclosure
This post was edited on 3/1/23 at 7:51 pm
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 3/1/23 at 8:40 pm to
Holy frick. welcome back
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 3/1/23 at 8:42 pm to
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LSURussian


Woah
Posted by Jag_Warrior
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Posted on 3/1/23 at 8:59 pm to
Came in to pinch hit and popped a homer on the first pitch.
Posted by Lickitty Split
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Posted on 3/1/23 at 11:30 pm to
How’s being a multimillionaire treating you these days?
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 3/2/23 at 6:58 am to
I’ve been holding it down for you while you’re gone baw
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 3/2/23 at 7:39 am to
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I hoped you had learned your lesson about making financial threads which you didn't understand.


You sound like a little bitch.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 3/2/23 at 7:50 am to
Sad that I looked up to this guy so much when I was a kid and he was crushing homers
Posted by wutangfinancial
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Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 3/2/23 at 8:46 am to
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How can they sell that much that they do not own? (naked short selling) Why is it legal? (it isn't)


You’re really going to melt when you figure out the regulations are written to protect these funds because they are making the market cheaper and more liquid for retail.

Edit: BaseballSZN has arrived
This post was edited on 3/2/23 at 8:50 am
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