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re: Series I bond Rate is PREDICTED to be 9.62 for May

Posted on 5/23/22 at 3:40 pm to
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
73165 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 3:40 pm to
quote:

Tried to sign wife up and have to get signature guarantee on form :(


This happened to a friend of mine and fellow TD poster a few weeks ago, he said he closed it all out and re-registered and it all went through. It turned out there was a formatting typo in his phone number or something ridiculous like that. Most web forms will give you an error with a red highlighted box to fix your info, but treasury direct apparently just defaults to requiring you to do a signature guarantee.

Try again.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42018 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 7:59 pm to
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Try again.


Thanks will do

Getting signature guarantee would be pita
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36776 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 10:23 pm to
That site sucks. I just got locked out while trying to set up a minor linked account.

I was already signed in, but when I tried to set up a linked account for my daughter it asked a security question (which I had saved). After three tries and knowing I typed it write it locked me out and you have to call between 8-5 Eastern M-F to get it fixed. Then I tried my wife's account and it did the same thing.

They have some issue. Maybe that I setup the account and security questions on the phone and was trying to answer on the computer.


That's Gubment for you.

They also won't take emails unless you are logged in and send it due to high volume of emails they receive.... hmmm I wonder why that might be.
This post was edited on 5/23/22 at 10:26 pm
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42018 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 10:31 pm to
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That's Gubment for you.



I get why my dad wants paper bonds

That said probably lots of demand
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36776 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 10:42 pm to
I get the demand is high, but they obviously have issues with people getting locked out. It's mentioned as soon as you call the number.

Like I said... they have some issue. Really think it's related to setting up on your phone.

I'd suggest anyone setting up an account do it on the computer.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42018 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 7:54 am to
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I get the demand is high, but they obviously have issues with people getting locked out. It's mentioned as soon as you call the number.

Like I said... they have some issue. Really think it's related to setting up on your phone.

I'd suggest anyone setting up an account do it on the computer.


I did mine in March no problem

Did wife Sunday and I have to do signature guarantee (registered on comp)

Agree with your assessment government screwing up
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36776 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:16 am to
So, I called 7(8et) and estimated wait time was 1 hour 45 minutes.

It's now 8:15 and estimated wait time is 1 hour 30 minutes...


ETA: well they did answer after 1 hour and 45 minutes even though it kept telling me my wait time was another hour.

Apparently one letter typo in my security answer probably from using my phone and big thumbs. Just be super careful.
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 11:30 am
Posted by DeCat ODahouse
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2017
1612 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:48 pm to
A few posters have mentioned using I bonds to park emergency funds. But it looks like you must truly forgo any availability of funds until they are deposited for a year.

Freezing access for one year would seem to exclude this as a place for an emergency fund deposit.
Am I misreading or are there loopholes I'm not seeing?

Really appreciate the thread.

Posted by SwampCollie
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
314 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 8:20 am to
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using I bonds to park emergency funds


I do. It's excellent place to park the funds IF you have liquidity to make it past the one year freeze. After that you just ladder funds in annually or semi annually.

Keep in minds today's rates are highly unusual. Regardless the intent here is so simply maintain purchasing power of the emergecy fund dollars vs HYSA etc
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82054 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 8:31 am to
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But it looks like you must truly forgo any availability of funds until they are deposited for a year.
Yea I noticed that as well. Because of that, I see no reason at all for me to benefit from purchasing I-bonds. Keeping cash whole with inflation is not an investment strategy of mine.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20553 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 8:36 am to
I must have missed that, so you are saying it is locked up for a year?

You mean before they will actually give you any interest?

You can take them out anytime with no penalty to the principal.
This post was edited on 5/27/22 at 8:37 am
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42018 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 12:57 pm to
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must have missed that, so you are saying it is locked up for a year?


My understanding no withdrawal any kind one year

Withdraw 1-5 year you lose a quarter worth of interest i think
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20553 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 3:49 pm to
I will have to double check about the first but I am pretty sure you can pull it anytime. You may not get any interest though if you pull it in the first year.


The 2nd statement is definitely not correct. You pull it early after the 1st year you are penalized the last 3 months of interest.

Keep it in 1yr 3months and get a full yrs interest.
Posted by bovine1
Walnut Ridge,AR via Tallulah,LA
Member since Dec 2004
1356 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 3:51 pm to
I'm locked out. They sent me an email this week saying I was unlocked. I went and logged in which worked but it asked for my 3 security question answers which I didn't write down. Apparently I messed them up and it locked me out again. Trying to get them on the phone has been a very trying experience which I haven't manage yet. I wish there were still paper I Bonds.
Posted by DeCat ODahouse
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2017
1612 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 7:43 pm to
US Treasury I bond research page

This is a direct quote from the page:
"I bonds earn interest for 30 years unless you cash them first. You can cash them after one year. But if you cash them before five years, you lose the previous three months of interest. (For example, if you cash an I bond after 18 months, you get the first 15 months of interest.)"

The above wording could possibly lead the optimistic to believe they could retrieve their funds and only lose interest in the first year.

However further research on the site leads to a section titled:
HELP! I LIVE IN A DISASTER-DECLARED AREA. I NEED TO CASH SAVINGS BONDS!
No Problem. You Have Options
(even if your bonds haven’t met the minimum 1-year holding period)
• Send us an e-mail from inside your account using the Contact Us link found in the upper right hand corner of the page. Explain why you're asking to redeem the bond and tell us which bonds you want redeemed.
Redeem I bond before 1 year due to disaster process page

To me the fact that they offer a page for supplicants (irony font) to plead for an exemption due to a federally declared disaster more than suggests that -- short of a sanctioned disaster-- the original funds are irrevocably tied up for a year.

I'd be very glad to hear that this is not the case as it would be nice to have ready access to emergency funds in an account that is at least keeping pace with government-spending inspired inflation.

For now, I remain a sceptic about I- bond liquidity in the first year.

I would add that I am sure the disaster retrieval process will work smoothly and efficiently, but my irony font has run out of ink.

Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20553 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 9:12 pm to
Yea that sucks if you can't pull then at all in the 1st year.

In regards to using your emergency funds, big no go, keep that in a savings account linked to your checking.
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
7920 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 9:24 pm to
You are locked in for a year, it's explained all over the website. It's not a trick.
Posted by jamiegla1
Member since Aug 2016
7900 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 9:35 pm to
ive got extra money for emergencies but this is the future place for my emergency funds. I was a little cautious when I signed up but I could always use my credit card for the next year if I absolutely had to.
Posted by Zzyzx
Member since Nov 2018
2459 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 12:37 am to
It’s very clear. You cannot touch the money for the first year.

If you pull out after 12 months but before 5 years, you forfeit 3 months of interest.


After 5 years you can withdraw with no penalty
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
38882 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 9:14 am to
First I’m hearing of this

If I have a substantial amount of money in a money market and my savings, I would be stupid to not put a majority of this (outside of emergency funds) into a series I Bond?
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