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re: Retirement Account Goals?
Posted on 8/17/26 at 7:35 am to Fat Bastard
Posted on 8/17/26 at 7:35 am to Fat Bastard
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i am paying about 750 a month for me, wife and youngest daughter still at home.
Through work? How so cheap?
Posted on 8/17/26 at 7:59 am to LP2OP
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My wife will inherit low 8 figures probably sooner rather than later
Fella, you're good. Congrats and do nothing but enjoy life (and keep the wife very happy) when that comes through.
Posted on 8/17/26 at 8:01 am to LP2OP
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47 now with about $350K in 401(k)
And that is prob in the top 5% of Americans
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but I like working so maybe I’ll make it to 67.
Yeah, I don't know if I can ever stop. Think I'd get bored, but initial question was just curiousity around when does the money make you say "frick it all, I'm just going to golf 7 days a week or travel the world".
I think my goal is to "retire" at 60 where I could easily live off dividends and then do something fun for extra income.
Posted on 8/17/26 at 8:05 am to LP2OP
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My wife will inherit low 8 figures probably sooner rather than later
It would be hard to work after that event. 8 figures is generational wealth.
Posted on 8/17/26 at 8:06 am to DarthRebel
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It would be hard to work after that event. 8 figures is generational wealth.
shite, 7 figures is generational wealth for a shite ton of people
Posted on 8/17/26 at 8:33 am to Lsut81
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shite, 7 figures is generational wealth for a shite ton of people
True it is, and it could be the start.
At 8 digits however, you are looking at 7 digit returns. You could live off $200,000 a year and grow the portfolio to $100,000,000 in a little over 25 years. If your children could survive on $2,000,000 a year, they would be billionaires in another ~25 years.
Watched a video a few months back on setting up generational family wealth. Short version it just takes that 1 person get it started and organize the family trust/estate/legal entity.
Posted on 8/17/26 at 8:37 am to Lsut81
I typically model liquid net worth at 33x expenses as of the time of retirement.
Disregards any home net worth and provides a 3% withdrawal rate.
Model in Projection Lab.
Disregards any home net worth and provides a 3% withdrawal rate.
Model in Projection Lab.
Posted on 8/17/26 at 8:46 am to lynxcat
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I typically model liquid net worth at 33x expenses as of the time of retirement.
So if your monthly expenses are 10k (120k) year, you are shooting for 3.9m?
Posted on 8/17/26 at 8:48 am to DarthRebel
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At 8 digits however, you are looking at 7 digit returns. You could live off $200,000 a year and grow the portfolio to $100,000,000 in a little over 25 years. If your children could survive on $2,000,000 a year, they would be billionaires in another ~25 years.
Watched a video a few months back on setting up generational family wealth. Short version it just takes that 1 person get it started and organize the family trust/estate/legal entity.
This is what the average person doesn't understand about wealth. The power of passive growth once the principle is established far exceeds anything an average single individual is earning. It's the concept of "the first $100K is the hardest" in personal savings but with extra zeros.
I generally think that if someone can get to $10M or so mark, then getting to $100M should be all but guaranteed with the right planning.
Posted on 8/17/26 at 8:51 am to Lsut81
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So if your monthly expenses are 10k (120k) year, you are shooting for 3.9m?
Yes, that's the right idea. A multiple of expenses is the simplest way for modeling from my perspective without it just being a made up number. Of course, plenty of choices can be made to increase or decrease spending as one goes through life and retirement so it's just a benchmark.
Most recent research points to a 4.7% safe withdrawal rate (up from the 4% rule established by that same author). Those analyses assume standard retirement age. If you are retiring early and foregoing prime earning years (and portfolio weathering a longer time series), then a more conservative SWR of ~3-3.5% enters the picture.
Posted on 8/17/26 at 9:16 am to lynxcat
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Yes, that's the right idea. A multiple of expenses is the simplest way for modeling from my perspective without it just being a made up number. Of course, plenty of choices can be made to increase or decrease spending as one goes through life and retirement so it's just a benchmark.
I retired at 54 with 42x expected expenses in retirement/brokerage funds not including SS. I'm six years in now and have only spent about 60-80k/year depending on some years of lumpy expenses. I started drawing on SS Survivor Benefits this year, I turned 60 in February. SS will provide about 40k so my retirement funds will not be used as much. From age 54 to early this year I used my brokerage to supplement my income plus the dividends from my brokerage funds.
This post was edited on 8/17/26 at 9:19 am
Posted on 8/17/26 at 9:20 am to Lsut81
I don’t know the answer exact number. I guess it boils down to what purpose do you want to fulfill. If nothing means enough to you, then the dollar amount needed to play golf / travel is pretty low; but if you have something you’re passionate about that requires work, then maybe there is no dollar amount to take it away.
My personal idea is seeing my kids launch and have grandkids and being able to get up and go do something with them.
My personal idea is seeing my kids launch and have grandkids and being able to get up and go do something with them.
Posted on 8/17/26 at 9:31 am to LP2OP
I think it also factors in whether or not you have kids/family you plan to leave money to. Not everyone has that, and you can certainly live on less if you don't have inheritance plans to consider.
Posted on 8/17/26 at 9:50 am to Lsut81
36 here
415k in retirement account
396.5k in brokerages
only about 10k in cash as i've recently been UNLOADING cash for (first) home downpayment, engagement ring, and wedding costs. Absolutely driving me nuts.
Started a new job 3 weeks ago and will be getting my first paycheck this week which im desperately needing.
415k in retirement account
396.5k in brokerages
only about 10k in cash as i've recently been UNLOADING cash for (first) home downpayment, engagement ring, and wedding costs. Absolutely driving me nuts.
Started a new job 3 weeks ago and will be getting my first paycheck this week which im desperately needing.
Posted on 8/17/26 at 10:11 am to xBirdx
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wtf do you people Do to sock away $60k:yr???
Nothing makes me feel more unprepared than Money Talk retirement threads.
Posted on 8/17/26 at 10:21 am to xBirdx
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wtf do you people
Do to sock away $60k:yr???
I save about 500k/year
Posted on 8/17/26 at 10:24 am to SouthMSReb
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36 here 415k in retirement account 396.5k in brokerages only about 10k in cash as i've recently been UNLOADING cash for (first) home downpayment, engagement ring, and wedding costs. Absolutely driving me nuts. Started a new job 3 weeks ago and will be getting my first paycheck this week which im desperately needing.
I think you’ll survive lol.
Posted on 8/17/26 at 10:25 am to xBirdx
My dad retired at 75 and moved his risk level from 6 to 9. Very aggressive. That was in 2019. His total grew about 50% over that time period.
Posted on 8/17/26 at 10:25 am to bayoubengals88
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So you started working your arse off around mid 20s?
What was your very first property?
Do you mind sharing how things exploded from there?
I own businesses...it's really the only way to grow wealth quickly (or working at some startup with ridiculous RSUs).
You do well in the market, right? Stick with that. I really only invest in properties because I find really good deals, and we do most of the work ourselves. Plus, my brother manages the properties, so it gives him a job. Lot of people lose their arse in real estate. And it's a pain in the arse
Posted on 8/17/26 at 10:29 am to lynxcat
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I generally think that if someone can get to $10M or so mark, then getting to $100M should be all but guaranteed with the right planning.
We are hoping to hit the 8 digit mark in our 60s, with the plan of living off low 6 digit yearly. My goal is not to just split it among the kids upon our deaths, but rather setup a trust.
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