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re: Proper Etiquette - Current Company Trying to Retain Me
Posted on 12/5/22 at 10:30 pm to Im4datigers
Posted on 12/5/22 at 10:30 pm to Im4datigers
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Spread your wings and give the new city a try. I can tell you, the first three years will suck but you get used to being away from “home”.
This is true. I moved from Dothan, AL to Fort Wayne, IN. I wasn’t sure about it at first, but I got married a month before we moved and I wanted some initial stability in my marriage. It was either move or don’t have a job though.
We like it up here just fine. Don’t love it. Don’t hate it kind of vibes.
A move from NOLA to Minneapolis will be like mine. Get prepared for those winters, baw!
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Posted on 12/5/22 at 11:15 pm to rintintin
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I recently had multiple job offers and accepted one in Minneapolis that will pay roughly 50+% more than my current job in Nola.
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So I accepted and signed the other job offer a few weeks ago.
quote:I went to a funeral today of someone I’ve known for 45+ years.
What is the proper move here?
He always kept his word.
The church was packed with good people.
Like attracts like, you signed an offer.
Every day you decide who you will be remembered as when you die.
Posted on 12/5/22 at 11:31 pm to rintintin
Companies are willing to pay more to bring in new blood than to keep old blood. It is dumb IMO but if you are penny wise pound foolish it makes sense. I chose my current (future) employer based on their attitude towards hiring me when I get my license. They told me they would offer me more than anyone in Baton Rouge but they also wanted me to look into the competing places to see if they would offer more and to see if I liked the fit better at those places. They put a huge emphasis on fit for the employee and employer and the manager was extremely confident in her ability to pay more than anyone else and her ability to get future raises.
So fit is everything, and if your old place didn't value you to begin with then why should you value them now?
So fit is everything, and if your old place didn't value you to begin with then why should you value them now?
Posted on 12/6/22 at 6:17 am to rintintin
Stay the course. You started looking for a reason.
Worst case you go to MN for a few years and decide it's not for you. Best case is you go to the moon. Either one is better than working for a company that has continued to under value you in that shite hole New Orleans.
Worst case you go to MN for a few years and decide it's not for you. Best case is you go to the moon. Either one is better than working for a company that has continued to under value you in that shite hole New Orleans.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 6:39 am to rintintin
No offense but I hate this
You accepted the other job for a reason.
It’s a 50 percent raise.
You’ve made your decision, leave with grace. That’s the etiquette
If you stay you’ll be gone within 2 years
Stop overthinking this
You accepted the other job for a reason.
It’s a 50 percent raise.
You’ve made your decision, leave with grace. That’s the etiquette
If you stay you’ll be gone within 2 years
Stop overthinking this
Posted on 12/6/22 at 6:40 am to rintintin
You’d be crazy to stay OP.
But the real question is why such a difference in pay? Is your current company low ? Your new company high? Neither or both? As said what’s the financial health and future of both?
The next question is what’s your plan mid term future? I would absolutely move to Minneapolis for 3-5 years for a 50% bump in pay, but staying there forever is a different story. So what’s your plan after that and the best way to get there?
But the real question is why such a difference in pay? Is your current company low ? Your new company high? Neither or both? As said what’s the financial health and future of both?
The next question is what’s your plan mid term future? I would absolutely move to Minneapolis for 3-5 years for a 50% bump in pay, but staying there forever is a different story. So what’s your plan after that and the best way to get there?
Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:33 am to rintintin
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The opportunity for growth at the new company is much better as this will be my floor going in, while this would most likely be my ceiling at my current company.
You answered your own question right here. It’s not about what you’re getting now, but what your future looks like. I don’t live in NOLA, so I won’t get into that.
Also, someone can check this, but I believe on average people who take a matching offer to stay with a company are usually dismissed within a year. They will always be resentful that you were going to leave and typically just want time for a succession plan.
If you’ve accepted the offer in Minnesota, you took it for a good reason and should already be gone. Don’t let anything be an anchor now.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 8:22 am to rintintin
Also if they manage to match and you stick around, you're probably close to maximum ceiling. You might not get significant raises going forward
New org that's willing to pay that much just to get you in the door likely has way higher upside
Moving to a new place is exciting. If you don't like it move back
New org that's willing to pay that much just to get you in the door likely has way higher upside
Moving to a new place is exciting. If you don't like it move back
This post was edited on 12/6/22 at 8:23 am
Posted on 12/6/22 at 8:38 am to rintintin
Depends on stability and how willing you are to move to Minneapolis. If it is something you are even considering the move up north is probably the better option as the potential to progress your career seems much better.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 9:00 am to rintintin
Get out of Louisiana.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 9:46 am to rintintin
Posted on 12/6/22 at 10:55 am to 21JumpStreet
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Gtfo of nola
This is what I'd typically lean towards when dealing with anywhere in LA vs anywhere else.
I can share a similar experience but mine was with a company in BR. I'm in San Diego now and it has been the best move of my life. I was living well in BR. Had some past issues with drugs but moved on and was living comfortable in BR. That said, moving out of Louisiana was the best decision of my life.
For me, life has been so much more positive getting out of the state. There's so much more to life that Louisiana is so far behind in. Even if it's just something simple like nice trails to walk on.
Anyways, I wouldn't make a decision like this based solely on work is what I'm saying. Do you have or plan on having kids or family? Didn't get a chance to read everything yet - sorry. Also, what's your quality of life going to be like in MN vs NO. Obviously, the money will go further in NO, but is that really worth it compared to how much more quality of living you'll get in MN (at least that's how I looked at moving out of LA).
Posted on 12/6/22 at 11:09 am to saint tiger225
Take the new job and go. Don't overthink things and don't be afraid. Go. You will not burn the bridge if you are honest and quickly tell your old employer you are leaving, before they go down the road of trying to keep you longer. Go.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 11:20 am to rintintin
Take the new job. 50+% more money and more opportunity, it's a no brainer.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 12:41 pm to soccerfüt
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Every day you decide who you will be remembered as when you die.
Yeah, have you thought about what all the people involved will think about you in 50 years when you're dead?
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:31 pm to rintintin
This would be a no brainer if you were going anywhere in the country beside Minneapolis. Admittedly, I have only been there in the dead of winter..but damn it was a depressing few weeks.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 4:35 pm to rintintin
I hate moving more than anyone else but I'll be damned if that'd be a deal breaker to move to a better city for more money. What exactly are you holding on to?
This is just human nature kicking in. Fear of the unknown with the new job (which you said yourself), and there's safety in what you know. Your instincts just want to keep you safe, they don't give a damn if you're happy.
You wanted to leave for some very good reasons likely, listen to that logic that was telling you to go. If you stay 6 months from now you'll realize that nothing's really changed and you're going to regret not leaving.
This is just human nature kicking in. Fear of the unknown with the new job (which you said yourself), and there's safety in what you know. Your instincts just want to keep you safe, they don't give a damn if you're happy.
You wanted to leave for some very good reasons likely, listen to that logic that was telling you to go. If you stay 6 months from now you'll realize that nothing's really changed and you're going to regret not leaving.
This post was edited on 12/6/22 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 12/6/22 at 6:05 pm to rintintin
It's time for you to go.
You aren't invested in the NOLA position from the standpoint your misgivings regarding leaving stem from "a stress factor along with all the unknowns." In other words, the excitement about what you can achieve. That's natural.
You don't mention a thing about why you love your current employer. That's an absolute signal.
You negotiated terms with the folks in Minneapolis. They offered and you accepted. You were ready to go. So, go. The NOLA group will never look at you the same.
You aren't invested in the NOLA position from the standpoint your misgivings regarding leaving stem from "a stress factor along with all the unknowns." In other words, the excitement about what you can achieve. That's natural.
You don't mention a thing about why you love your current employer. That's an absolute signal.
You negotiated terms with the folks in Minneapolis. They offered and you accepted. You were ready to go. So, go. The NOLA group will never look at you the same.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:39 pm to rintintin
Should have done that before signing with new company. If I was the new company I’d start rethinking the offer if you came waffling back to the table. As a business owner myself I’d be questioning your decision making ability and wondering how much your loyalty could be trusted. Good learning opportunity for you.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 9:01 pm to rintintin
I’m in a similar situation. Love my work and the people I work with, but I’m taking an almost 50% raise at a new job. Current boss gonna flip when he finds out, but they are gonna throw it at me trying to keep me. I’m just too valuable. Problem is, if they retroactively recognize my value, it hurts me because I’ve been lowballed for years, which builds resentment.
Baw, they need to offer a minimum of 15% over to keep u there. They gotta pay the cost to be the boss. I’ve made my mind up
That’s what it’s gonna be for me and I’m probably going to negotiate an annual cost of living raise (inflation) on top of that.
Baw, they need to offer a minimum of 15% over to keep u there. They gotta pay the cost to be the boss. I’ve made my mind up
That’s what it’s gonna be for me and I’m probably going to negotiate an annual cost of living raise (inflation) on top of that.
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