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Paying off mortgage

Posted on 6/24/21 at 2:44 pm
Posted by LSUisKING12
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
320 posts
Posted on 6/24/21 at 2:44 pm
I recently just completed all of the necessary steps to start a second/part time job. I am hoping to use all of the money from that job to pay off our mortgage in hopefully the next ten years. I am curious on what the boards thoughts are on this.

My current job takes care of my retirement savings, investments etc. so I don’t have to worry about that. I just would really like to have our house paid off by the time our oldest goes to college in 12 years. Is that the best use of the money?
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
9778 posts
Posted on 6/24/21 at 2:49 pm to
"Is that the best use of the money?"

Here we go again!

What would you do with the money if you didn't apply it to your mortgage?
Posted by dlmast87
Amish Country
Member since Dec 2007
1941 posts
Posted on 6/24/21 at 2:50 pm to
Depending on your current rate, there's probably better rates of return out there. However, the peace of mind to me is worth it. We paid ours off early and there is a sense of freedom that I can't put a price tag on.
Posted by LSUisKING12
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
320 posts
Posted on 6/24/21 at 2:56 pm to
We just bought a year ago and got about a 3.2% rate. Turned our first house into rental property so that would probably be the route we took instead of paying down the mortgage. I just would love to pay it off and never have to worry about a house note again. This will be our forever home and be an asset for us when we eventually downsize.
Posted by FinleyStreet
Member since Aug 2011
7898 posts
Posted on 6/24/21 at 3:07 pm to
If your goal is to get rid of your note for peace of mind, pay it off. If you goal is to maximize your net worth, don't pay it off - invest the extra cash instead.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166136 posts
Posted on 6/24/21 at 3:08 pm to
I'd pay a little more a month but wouldn't break my back paying off a 3% interest note. Part of what you pay every month is escrow, that note isn't going away regardless.
Posted by Fbohn1
Member since Jun 2009
213 posts
Posted on 6/24/21 at 3:22 pm to
TLDR, what FinleyStreet said


Here’s the reality,

Some people have the discipline to say “we’ll put an extra $500.00/month towards house since we can automate with monthly bank draft” and then never look back. And that’s great.

But, depending on your age, and other factors - if you took that same dollar amount per month - opened a brokerage account, also setting up auto withdrawal/invest, and just bought shares of VTI, you would have a lot more $ in 10 years, than interest you would’ve saved.

From what I’ve seen though, people have an easier time paying off debt with extra money than they do investing that extra money. Or at least not going in and using that growing principal on some other depreciating asset - like using it to buy a car or boat. They see the money and HAVE to spend some portion of it

It takes discipline - we will only use that brokerage money for real estate acquisitions, should we choose to use it (since we are into RE investing), and not for buying random ‘stuff’.

*If* you ever needed that money you used to pay down, you don’t get it back. Should an emergency arise, that’s larger than your emergency fund in your savings, you have a lot of extra dough in the brokerage account (taxes aside).

I was in the same ‘pay down’ / debt-free boat as you when we first bought our house. But I had thrown some money into a brokerage account, and seeing the power of compounding interest and growth, especially continuing with monthly contributions has turned me into more of a ‘grow my net worth’ mindset.

But as others have said, you can’t beat the freedom of no debt, I would love to be free of my P&I on my mortgage - I just also happen to live in a coastal town where my taxes and insurance are the same amount as my principal and interest. So I wouldn’t actually be saving my entire mortgage payment, just half.
This post was edited on 6/24/21 at 3:23 pm
Posted by iAmBatman
The Batcave
Member since Mar 2011
12382 posts
Posted on 6/24/21 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

got about a 3.2% rate.


3.2% will be less than inflation...why pay off that debt at such a low rate?
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
4244 posts
Posted on 6/24/21 at 3:26 pm to
3.2% is a great rate.

A problem I see with prepaying the mortgage vs building more savings is if you do ever hit a cash flow problem (lose of job, medical issue, family illness, etc), your mortgage servicer isn’t going to give you a pass on your monthly payment just because you are ahead of schedule on principal. The monthly payment is due and a missed payment puts the loan into default absent some type of forbearance grant.

Given your rate I would just continue paying the note as schedule and invest the excess. You could always invest the excess in a separate brokerage account and when it gets to be enough to fully repay the mortgage in one lump sum do it then from your “mortgage prepayment brokerage account”
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80762 posts
Posted on 6/24/21 at 3:41 pm to
quote:

If your goal is to get rid of your note for peace of mind, pay it off. If you goal is to maximize your net worth, don't pay it off - invest the extra cash instead.

This
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17954 posts
Posted on 6/24/21 at 4:11 pm to
I'm a big fan of it. Financial freedom/security has a value to it that most who think in black and white struggle with evaluating, but it is a real thing and it does have a value.

For those who want the freedom to not worry about maintaining specific income levels and what not, it is a life changing event to be mortgage free. Such a stress reliever.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84642 posts
Posted on 6/24/21 at 4:40 pm to
quote:

For those who want the freedom to not worry about maintaining specific income levels and what not, it is a life changing event to be mortgage free. Such a stress reliever.


I’m sure it is, but having the ability to pay it off and instead watching it grow faster than the debt is pretty sweet too.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38655 posts
Posted on 6/24/21 at 4:54 pm to
people that have paid off their mortgage will tell you its the best thing they've ever done for themselves.
people who have not, will tell you its a dumb financial decision.



(mine's paid, very happy about that)
Posted by iAmBatman
The Batcave
Member since Mar 2011
12382 posts
Posted on 6/24/21 at 5:15 pm to
quote:



I’m sure it is, but having the ability to pay it off and instead watching it grow faster than the debt is pretty sweet too


Some people just don’t get it man
Posted by LSUisKING12
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
320 posts
Posted on 6/24/21 at 5:44 pm to
Thanks everyone. I will just have to evaluate what is best for us in the long term. It may honestly be a hybrid approach that works best.
Posted by Turf Taint
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2021
6010 posts
Posted on 6/24/21 at 5:54 pm to
Won't repeat what others have posted.

Before I put pen to paper, time is the most precious resource we have. If 2nd job takes away significant time you have with your child, that is a cost I would avoid at all costs (pun inteded). No house early payoff is worth that (to me).

Also, if you have lifestyle bloat in your expenses already, you might consider sifting those out and applying to your mortgage principle. Cutting expenses is 100% risk-free and guaranteed to increase your wealth.

That said...

My approach, (without knowing the financial math facts, your risk appetite, long-term goals, health, etc), in principle:

Invest same $ for same period (investment return > mortgage interest rate)

Take portion to payoff mortgage and the remaining balance available for upgrades to home or support to college-aged child or whatever.


Requires:

Discipline (monthly auto-investing and forgetting)

Valuing the financial opportunity > peace of mind of owning home sooner (those who place higher value on peace of mind would/should disagree w/me; the fact that you wish to payoff before child starts college suggests you might should avoid my advice)


Now, go play with your kid! Good luck.



Posted by sstig
Houston
Member since Oct 2003
2767 posts
Posted on 6/24/21 at 7:11 pm to
Paid off my house 17 years ago and kept making the payment into investment accounts. turned out very well for my family and lifestyle never skipped a beat. best thing I have ever done.
Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
1735 posts
Posted on 6/24/21 at 9:00 pm to
This. The day I realized that, even after I paid off my mortgage, I’d still owe several hundred for taxes and insurance, I realized the ‘peace of mind’ factor was a myth. I will always owe somebody for my house, whether I have a mortgage or not. I’ll keep my low rate, thank you.
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
17750 posts
Posted on 6/24/21 at 9:57 pm to
Stop the retirement savings for now and throw that at the mortgage then when thats paid off start back with the retirement savings
Posted by HarveyBanger
Member since Mar 2018
1100 posts
Posted on 6/24/21 at 10:04 pm to
quote:

Stop the retirement savings for now and throw that at the mortgage then when thats paid off start back with the retirement savings


This is terrible advice.
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