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re: Paying off debt strategy

Posted on 9/29/26 at 11:18 am to
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 9/29/26 at 11:18 am to
Agreed, don't buy unnecessary depreciating assets you can't afford. Especially if you're early in accumulation phase it can really set you back. However, if you are buying out of necessity or even enjoyment within reason, there's no reason to avoid low interest debt.

For instance, I am fully invested. I WANT a Tesla. Why sell shares and realize 15% LTCG when I can borrow at 1.5% dealer incentive rate? Sure, I could wait and save cash but that would just be deferring further investment in appreciating assets. Instead, I'll benefit from the interest rate arbitrage.
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
3405 posts
Posted on 9/29/26 at 11:20 am to
This episode?

If had seen his question on X, I would have been one of those rare replies that regret paying off mortgage. I aggressively paid down my first home at 5.5%. If I'd have invested it instead I'd be much better off. It easily cost me 6 figures in missed growth. Opportunity cost is a bitch.
This post was edited on 9/29/26 at 11:27 am
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
45527 posts
Posted on 9/29/26 at 12:01 pm to
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Paying off the truck will really only save $100 or so in interest since it so close to being paid off.
Putting it on the wife’s car will save around $1000 in interest over the life of the loan and make a good dent in overall principal.


If that is the case, I would pay off your truck. Then apply the money that was going to your car note and added to your wife's car note.
Posted by geauxtigers
Biloxi Mississippi
Member since Nov 2003
2732 posts
Posted on 9/29/26 at 12:19 pm to
Why sell shares and realize . never sell i have zero problem borrowing money @ a good rate . when I can borrow at 1.5% dealer incentive rate?
This post was edited on 9/29/26 at 12:21 pm
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
60806 posts
Posted on 9/29/26 at 12:31 pm to
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Tons of studies coming out these days proving this to be true. Hell, even a bigtime finance guy on youtube who preached nothing but leveraging debt to build wealth has come around and is now preaching the benefits of paying off debt.

This is fake as hell unless he only means like car notes and credit cards

I would rather pay a mortgage and not know vs having to cut a check for insurance that isn’t good for anything and property tax for schools full of kids that belong in Angola


Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
25380 posts
Posted on 9/29/26 at 12:38 pm to
Highest interest rate first. /thread
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
25380 posts
Posted on 9/29/26 at 12:46 pm to
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Yep, snowball it. Pay off the truck and use any leftover to put towards car. Then take whatever you were paying on the truck and pay it towards the car. Once the car is paid off, keep making that payment towards a HYSA to pay as much as you can when you have to buy a new car.


This thread definitely started on the OT and not the MTB.
Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
36538 posts
Posted on 9/29/26 at 12:55 pm to
It was started here. And I don’t disagree with paying off the highest debt first. It’s probably what I would do.

But it sounds like it wouldn’t pay it all off and if you’re coming here to ask this question, you are probably better off snowballing.
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
24812 posts
Posted on 9/29/26 at 1:10 pm to
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Pay off the truck then roll those payments over to the car to pay it off faster. Having a vehicle paid off is a good feeling and relieves a lot of stress.




Winner winner.

Take this guys advice right now
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
76785 posts
Posted on 9/29/26 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

Yep, snowball it.
Eh, no thanks.
quote:

Yep, snowball it. Pay off the truck and use any leftover to put towards car. Then take whatever you were paying on the truck and pay it towards the car. Once the car is paid off, keep making that payment towards a HYSA to pay as much as you can when you have to buy a new car.
Ahhh, OK, never mind.

Your terminology has a double entendre.
Posted by KTiger85
Member since Oct 2018
979 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 2:25 pm to
Not necessarily. It is still a personal decision that affects people differently. I still have a home mortgage, but put my extra money into investments that have earned a minimum of 4 times my mortgage interest.

Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
22497 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 2:31 pm to
Harvard Business did a big study on debt payoff methods. Of course, snowball method comes out on top because behavior issues (spending problems) require behavior changing methods.

Harvard Business Study
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
3405 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 3:54 pm to
I went a step further and borrowed against my investment portfolio to fund my current home down payment.

At first I was paying down the loan balance and interest. Past couple years, I've just been letting interest accrue an not making any payments. Seeing those investments grow much faster than the loan balance hits different. (Plus heirs wont have to pay tax on all these gains) The first home we ever bought, we paid off early. It didnt feel this good.
Posted by Popths
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
4568 posts
Posted on 10/1/26 at 7:37 am to
Being debt free to me is more than about the math. It’s the free form bondage feeling. Everyone is different. I’m at a point where that’s more important than trying to pinch pennies. I’m on cruise control now.
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
13663 posts
Posted on 10/1/26 at 7:53 am to
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Pay off your smallest debt. Roll that payment to the next smallest debt. Rinse and repeat.


One thing to consider before committing to the snowball. There is another method to it. It is called the debt avalanche where list all your debts and pay the ones with the highest interest rates first. That way if you got a Crapital One credit card with $5,000 dollar balance at a 24% interest rate, you might pay that off sooner than Citi Card that might be at 2,000 with promotional 0% rate if you just opened it.

I found a spreadsheet online that I downloaded that you can input all this information and it spits out the cost of the snowball and avalanche methods. You can even add additional payments and see into the future of how long it will take to pay off.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
22497 posts
Posted on 10/1/26 at 9:40 am to
As the harvard study showed, the avalanche method has a high failure rate. Visible progress is just too slow to keep people motivated.
Posted by T-Jon
Member since Jan 2012
179 posts
Posted on 10/1/26 at 10:36 am to
If your truck isn’t worth a ton of money, pay it off and drop full insurance coverage for liability only. If you aren’t in a financial position to do that, or don’t want to, pay off the highest interest rate.
Posted by Art Blakey
Member since Aug 2023
347 posts
Posted on 10/1/26 at 1:07 pm to
When the President of the United States is saying this you pay monthly minimums on existing debt, lever up, and buy more assets.

LINK
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
13663 posts
Posted on 10/2/26 at 7:41 am to
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As the harvard study showed, the avalanche method has a high failure rate. Visible progress is just too slow to keep people motivated.


I can understand that when people need to be motivated. But when you are a numbers person, you can see the difference. Now why people don’t see the interest piling up when they are racking the debt up is beyond me.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
38046 posts
Posted on 10/2/26 at 7:44 am to
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I can understand that when people need to be motivated. But when you are a numbers person, you can see the difference. Now why people don’t see the interest piling up when they are racking the debt up is beyond me.


Think about how dumb the average person is…. And then remember half are dumber than that
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