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Online ChemE degrees

Posted on 11/1/18 at 11:39 am
Posted by lsualum01
Member since Sep 2008
1755 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 11:39 am
I have advanced as far as I can with my employer without going back to school. My company offers tuition reimbursement as long as the degree is approved. For me, a degree in chemical engineering would make the most sense. I have a B.S. in Biology from 2006. The program would have to either be 100% online or within a reasonable distance of Baton Rouge and offer flexible scheduling since I work shiftwork. I have already contacted LSU to ask for them to evaluate my transcript and let me know what I would have to do. I've searched on the internet but everything seems to require you to give them a bunch of info before giving you any useful information. Just curious if anyone here has done this before or have any suggestions? TIA
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 1:09 pm to
Another BA? I wouldn’t spend time on that. Go masters level.
Plenty of online and on ground MBAs out there, as well as online MPS degrees in fields like IT management and security.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 1:57 pm to
LINK

University of North Dakota offers a mostly online B.S. in ChemE which is ABET accredited.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22796 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 2:30 pm to
Biology is not very similar to the desired degree. You are starting over at freshman/sophomore level. It will take you awhile and probably not even possible to complete the last couple of years working shiftwork. You will need to be a full time student.

Additionally, you will want to dedicate to making good grades so it needs to be your priority.
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19239 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 3:22 pm to
What would the degree allow you to do? Get a promotion at your company or a new position with them as an engineer?
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30561 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 3:46 pm to
ChemE is a hard program, and just bc you graduate in it doesn’t mean you’ll get a job in it. Are you ready to commit to your coursework? You’ll need good grades to get a job after
Posted by lsualum01
Member since Sep 2008
1755 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 5:44 pm to
I appreciate the responses. I would already have opportunities with the company I work for. My boss, as well as his boss, are chemE's. I will look into an alternate degree that I could get a masters that would allow advancement. However, ChemE degrees seem to be the preferred path.
Posted by lsualum01
Member since Sep 2008
1755 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 5:49 pm to
Initially it would just allow me to transition into engineering. Over the long term, it would allow me more opportunities for advancement.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45804 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 7:52 pm to
How old are you?
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
3116 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 8:33 pm to
I'm a ChemE and I hire ChemE's. I would not give much street cred to an online degree -- so much so that I would not even bother interviewing them unless I had a very strong recommendation and even then would have strong reservations.

One of my colleagues decided to go back and get his ChemE degree, but he actually worked it out with his employer to go back to school and make it happen. I'm sure this is rare, but have you thought about how that might work for you and/or asked your employer? Are you assuming that they would allow you the career path you want if you became a ChemE or have they explicitly told you that you need to do it?
Posted by lsualum01
Member since Sep 2008
1755 posts
Posted on 11/2/18 at 1:47 am to
Mid 30's. No, I have not been told to do it or asked to do it. I just know what the requirements are above the position that I hold and that the company offers tuition reimbursement.
Posted by KingofZydeco
On da bayou
Member since Jul 2009
1000 posts
Posted on 11/2/18 at 12:59 pm to
I'm a ChE graduate from LSU as well. The program is not setup for someone working full time. Looking back on my time there, I don't think I ever meet or heard of someone working full time while going through the program (particularly the last 2-2.5 years).

I would be in the same boat as well regarding the legitimacy of an online degree in ChE. Its not that online degrees are bad, but I just don't see how an online program can be anywhere near the level of a brick/motor university.

Finally, if you can find a way to get it done, I would see you as a very strong candidate. I'm assuming you have a lot of operation/operator knowledge. This is something missing in most ChEs out of school. To me, its pretty invaluable.
Posted by hiltacular
NYC
Member since Jan 2011
19675 posts
Posted on 11/2/18 at 1:15 pm to
ChemE from GT, a good portion of my undergrad was spent in a lab type environment, how would an online program replicate that?

I hire ChemEs and like someone else said, I would not take an online degree seriously and I mean that in the nicest way possible. I would say this could apply to just about any engineering degree

This post was edited on 11/2/18 at 1:16 pm
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
82018 posts
Posted on 11/2/18 at 1:39 pm to
Fwiw, I think the OP is trying to transition within his company. I think that is a pretty significant difference especially if he already has direct exposure to the engr department he'd be going to.
But I agree that if he would have a hard time getting a role with a different company until he gets some years of experience at his current company after the degree.
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
3116 posts
Posted on 11/2/18 at 2:01 pm to
Instead of hoping that his current employer will promote him or put him in an engineering role, I would sit down and discuss it with them. Hell, if you're going to talk to them about tuition reimbursement I would think you would want to discuss how this might help THEIR business. Otherwise, maybe they think you're interested in getting the degree and leaving. If THEY don't see you as someone they would hire as an engineer then it would be nice to know that ahead of time.

As I said, I worked with someone who worked strange hours full time to actually attend classes at LSU and graduated in ChemE. I actually had a few classes with him while he was doing this. Granted, his employer was on board with this plan and had agreed in advance that they would be interested in him being in an engineering function.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
82018 posts
Posted on 11/2/18 at 2:36 pm to
quote:

Instead of hoping that his current employer will promote him or put him in an engineering role, I would sit down and discuss it with them.
Well he said it has to be approved, so a discussion is implied
Posted by lsualum01
Member since Sep 2008
1755 posts
Posted on 11/2/18 at 8:00 pm to
Yeah, I plan to have the discussion with them. Now is just not a great time because of an expansion/T/A at the current moment. I figured that it would be best to do my due diligence ahead of time that way when it comes time to have the discussion that it doesn't just look like some whimsical idea. Despite working shiftwork, I work no overtime and have a somewhat flexible schedule so it wouldn't have to be 100% online but it would mostly have to be online. I am just trying to assess the feasibility of this endeavor before wasting my superior's time. Thanks for the responses. I appreciate it.
Posted by LSUtigerME
Walker, LA
Member since Oct 2012
3795 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 12:39 pm to
I know someone who has done this exact thing.

If I may ask, which company?

Your main opposition will be similar to the ones in this thread. Everyone is very protective of their degree, and rightfully so. They put so little value on the field experience an older person with relevant experience has vs the paper they worked their arse off for in school (trust me, we did).

My buddy went to LSU, graduated in Chemistry and went to work in the lab at a chemical facility. Worked for several years, saw the same thing you’re seeing, “I need an engineering degree”.

He enrolled in North Dakota’s online degree program. It’s mostly online, but involves a lot of group time, including video chats, etc. He also spent 2 or 3 summers up there for several weeks doing labs and such. So in my opinion, it’s not a trash/UoPhoenix type online degree.

However, he had a very difficult time breaking that barrier. Respect for an LSU Chem/Online ChemE degree was difficult, as was simply working the HR angle to transition/interview for an Engineering role from a non-engineering role. They couldn’t figure out how to do it...even suggesting quitting and applying externally (less of a chance). Ultimately, he found someone who would listen and was offered an entry level role as an engineer. He’s 10 yrs older than the equivalent entry level engineers out of school. Almost like a step back to get a step up.

It’s a great option, but you’re going to face difficulties. Engineers are proud of their paper and will look down on your online degree. I’d have a long talk with your current employer and their engineering department to see how you would fit in and how that transition would occur if you went through with your plan.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42560 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 7:01 pm to
I would do MBA. Check out UAB or Auburn.
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