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Posted on 4/17/21 at 10:54 pm to
Posted by CecilShortsHisPants
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 10:54 pm to
I thought I was buying the dip this afternoon.
Posted by Ross
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 10:58 pm to
I’ve spent more than I usually would but I can’t let a 12% correction go without buying.
Posted by NashvilleTider
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 11:08 pm to
This was all triggered by a tweet that said US treasury was going to prosecute institutions that money laundered through crypto
Posted by TigerTatorTots
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 11:11 pm to
Hahaha no way that is what caused this plummet. If so, buy the entire fricking dip
Posted by NashvilleTider
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 11:16 pm to
Ada snd Vechain are recovering
Posted by UnluckyTiger
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 11:19 pm to
link sushi and tezos for this dip
Posted by CecilShortsHisPants
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 11:35 pm to
Doge didn’t even flinch. Wtf
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 11:59 pm to
Does the US prosecute institutions that money laundered through cash?
Posted by 98eagle
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Posted on 4/18/21 at 12:11 am to
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I’m very curious what is driving this massive sell-off.

This is just BTC doing what it does best, which is volatility. It shakes out weak hands and rewards those with ice in their veins and those who see opportunity.
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 4/18/21 at 12:20 am to
quote:

I thought I was buying the dip this afternoon.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 4/18/21 at 12:25 am to
I tried telling yall that I was gonna crash this train
Posted by rocket31
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Posted on 4/18/21 at 12:28 am to
if that's the fud that scared billions out of the market than we still have a long way to go before there is conviction to hold

not a great sign
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 4/18/21 at 12:41 am to
quote:

I’m very curious what is driving this massive sell-off.


Reddit thread explaining it...


quote:

Degenerates on Binance with up to 150x leverage (borrowing Tethers to buy crypto) have been building up their margin account balances to big numbers, and when they make money, they double down, and build even bigger positions. Because they're degenerates.

But when the price dips below a certain point, some degenerates who have these margin accounts are suddenly below their maintenance limits, and they get liquidated. When they get liquidated, Binance will sell your crypto for Tether, and you are left with little to nothing.

So what happened? Crypto got sold, and Tether got bought. Because Crypto got sold, the price drops, which triggers more accounts, who thought they were safe, to dip below their margin maintenance requirements.

This creates a feedback cycle which basically ends in the liquidation of all the margin accounts. It all ends in a very fast, cascading crash like we just saw.

The bad news is the price is lower, but there's a silver lining. The good news is the market is in a healthier position after this. Most of the unsustainable degenerate margin accounts are probably gone. If we go up to $60k in the next week, it's not because of borrowing (as much). Going forward, at least for the near term, another event like this is not very likely.

The price we see right now could be thought of as being closer to the "real" price which we would have had without the degenerates.

TLDR: frick Binance

EDIT: Some people wanted more evidence to support this theory, so I suggest you look at the price differences between the exchanges (Binance vs. Coinbase, for instance) during the crash. You'll notice the exchange with leverage was significantly lower in price, which suggests bots were arbitraging Coinbase down to match it. Additionally, note the Tether price during the crash, which went up to $1.05.
Posted by NashvilleTider
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Posted on 4/18/21 at 12:47 am to
That makes much more sense than the Twitter post - thanks for posting
Posted by finchmeister08
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Posted on 4/18/21 at 1:23 am to
I’m glad you understood because I sure didn’t.
Posted by CecilShortsHisPants
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Posted on 4/18/21 at 2:18 am to
Exact same thing that happened to Mr. Hwang at Archegos right? But with cryptos
This post was edited on 4/18/21 at 2:32 am
Posted by Iowa Golfer
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Posted on 4/18/21 at 7:35 am to
BTC breaches support. Now I'm looking for a logical reentry point. Also, I'm glad I purchased protective puts at $55,000 strike.

I smell fear. I'm also just sitting back and watching right now.
Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 4/18/21 at 7:36 am to
Where can you buy protective puts for bitcoin?
This post was edited on 4/18/21 at 7:37 am
Posted by Tiger1242
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Posted on 4/18/21 at 7:37 am to
Do you guys think BTC back above $60k this week is inevitable?
Posted by Iowa Golfer
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Posted on 4/18/21 at 7:45 am to
quote:

Where can you buy protective puts for bitcoin?


CME group products almost anywhere. They settle in case. Or LedgerX, also CFTC and clearing house. Settles in BTC.

Probably a lot of other places, but I only go where it is insured and regulated.

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