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My house is on some acreage and I’m wanting to set up a farm
Posted on 7/13/19 at 10:14 pm
Posted on 7/13/19 at 10:14 pm
To plant pecans. Could you guys point me in the right direction on getting the team set up headed in the right direction? Anybody operate a small farm?
Right now all the land and home are one. Not sure if that matters. The property is going to need to have significant clearing. I need to build a barn. And I’ll have to set up irrigation and I’ll have to acquire a tractor and some machinery.
Not sure if it will be better to get a farm loan or pay as I can out of pocket. Thanks.
Right now all the land and home are one. Not sure if that matters. The property is going to need to have significant clearing. I need to build a barn. And I’ll have to set up irrigation and I’ll have to acquire a tractor and some machinery.
Not sure if it will be better to get a farm loan or pay as I can out of pocket. Thanks.
This post was edited on 7/13/19 at 10:22 pm
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Posted on 7/13/19 at 10:30 pm to baobabtiger
I’d call farm bureau
Posted on 7/13/19 at 11:10 pm to baobabtiger
How many acres and how close to your house?I know a guy in Grant Parish with about 1000 acres divided into several pastures(he raises cattle also).Parts of his orchards furtherest from his house he has abandoned due to wild hogs rooting up the ground.He said building fences able to keep hogs out is outrageously expensive.The orchards closest to his house he hasn’t had too much trouble.Another guy I know with 23 acre hay field he was getting a little retirement income from was invaded by wild hogs and he finally gave it up.He said he would disc it up and level it,few days the hogs would root it up again
Hate to discourage you but if you have any wild hogs within 50 miles now,you likely will have them by the time your pecan trees start producing.
Hate to discourage you but if you have any wild hogs within 50 miles now,you likely will have them by the time your pecan trees start producing.
Posted on 7/14/19 at 3:45 am to baobabtiger
Bass Pecan tree co Lumberton MS. They have a webpage.
Posted on 7/14/19 at 7:31 am to baobabtiger
Not much experience on the finance side of this operation, but on the pecan tree side understand that you will lose an very large number of trees in their early weeks/months of the farm.
Years back we planted north of 100 pecan trees that we trucked in from Georgia. Had over 50% dead loss in the first batch. Got some more planted as replacements, and lost a ton of those too. We’re no farmers, but did everything by the book. Could have been a lack of nutrition in the soil compared to where they came from. Could have been a dying batch of trees from the beginning. Could have been a poor transportation job that started killing them on their trip to us. Not real sure.
Just be sure to factor in a significant number for dead loss.
Years back we planted north of 100 pecan trees that we trucked in from Georgia. Had over 50% dead loss in the first batch. Got some more planted as replacements, and lost a ton of those too. We’re no farmers, but did everything by the book. Could have been a lack of nutrition in the soil compared to where they came from. Could have been a dying batch of trees from the beginning. Could have been a poor transportation job that started killing them on their trip to us. Not real sure.
Just be sure to factor in a significant number for dead loss.
Posted on 7/14/19 at 11:22 am to baobabtiger
Get free advice from the folks at LSU Ag Center. They have several publications on pecans.
There is a pecan research station near Shreveport that was started in the 1930s. It is the only university research facility in the country exclusively devoted to pecans.
Pecan Research and Extension Station
LSU pecan publications
There is a pecan research station near Shreveport that was started in the 1930s. It is the only university research facility in the country exclusively devoted to pecans.
Pecan Research and Extension Station
LSU pecan publications
Posted on 7/14/19 at 11:31 am to baobabtiger
Grow hemp.
You’ll make more money.
You’ll make more money.
Posted on 7/14/19 at 12:04 pm to baobabtiger
You ready for them sweet government subsidies, aren’t you baw?
Posted on 7/14/19 at 12:22 pm to baobabtiger
Probably want to get a loan so you can get set up quickly and generate your revenue faster. Things like irrigation you’ll want to do all at one time, not scale up. Obviously the barn is all at once.
You may need some security too. You don’t want people walking in stealing all your pecans and leaving
You may need some security too. You don’t want people walking in stealing all your pecans and leaving
Posted on 7/14/19 at 12:31 pm to baobabtiger
F250 platinum write off in bound
This post was edited on 7/14/19 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 7/14/19 at 12:48 pm to baobabtiger
If you don't love pecans and farming I would highly advise against this idea. It will be many times more difficult than you are envisioning, and you have to have the will to go through that adversity.
Assuming you still want to move forward, a few tips:
- Spray foliar zinc on pecan trees the first few years to maximize growth
- Make sure you plant a good mix of type 1 and type 2 trees to ensure adequate pollination
- Once more than 50% of the orchard floor is in shade at noon, you need to start thinning trees. This is the biggest mistake most pecan owners make, waiting too long to thin out trees. Gotta have light hit the leaves to make pecans.
- Plant scab resistant varieties only unless you want to spend most of the summer spraying fungicides.
Assuming you still want to move forward, a few tips:
- Spray foliar zinc on pecan trees the first few years to maximize growth
- Make sure you plant a good mix of type 1 and type 2 trees to ensure adequate pollination
- Once more than 50% of the orchard floor is in shade at noon, you need to start thinning trees. This is the biggest mistake most pecan owners make, waiting too long to thin out trees. Gotta have light hit the leaves to make pecans.
- Plant scab resistant varieties only unless you want to spend most of the summer spraying fungicides.
Posted on 7/14/19 at 5:49 pm to baobabtiger
Check out your county agent, soil conservation service
Posted on 7/14/19 at 7:55 pm to GeneralLee
Out of curiosity, how long until they are large enough to produce?
Posted on 7/14/19 at 8:01 pm to baobabtiger
We have ~85 pecan trees around 15 yrs old in Acadia parish. Haven’t made 5 lbs of pecans. Had LSUAg come out a few times and several other experts. Can’t figure out what the deal is. We spray and fertilize as recommended.
Personally, I’d prefer hay or cattle. May require more work but it’s less of a long term investment and I feel like you have more control over it.
Best of luck, like others have said. There are many free resources out there to help you out
Personally, I’d prefer hay or cattle. May require more work but it’s less of a long term investment and I feel like you have more control over it.
Best of luck, like others have said. There are many free resources out there to help you out
Posted on 7/14/19 at 9:19 pm to TJG210
Depends on the variety. More precocious ones like Kanza can produce a few by year 3 while other varieties can take 7-10 years. If you really baby them the first few years it speeds it up a lot.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 11:31 am to LSUA 75
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Hate to discourage you but if you have any wild hogs within 50 miles now,you likely will have them by the time your pecan trees start producing.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 11:49 am to Tiger Prawn
Cool video but-who wants to sit out in dark waiting for hogs to come to shoot.I’ve done my share of it and it gets old quick.Problem is they don’t come on a schedule,I would think I had them patterned because I had pictures on camera coming at certain time, go sit out waiting and they might come 5 hours late,or might not come at all.
I finally bought remote operated trap,but that is pia also.Camera sends me text photo when it detects motion but it is often raccoon eating my bait or even a moth flying in front of camera.My most successful catch was 22 but the head sow wouldn’t go in first 3 nights,had her on camera standing outside watching the others eat. Finally went in 4th night and I got the whole bunch.
Caught another bunch of 7 at 1:00 am,missed some others at like 3:00am because I didn’t hear the text notification.
Anyone that doesn’t have land has no idea what it’s like dealing with hogs,it’s a never ending exercise in frustration.
I finally bought remote operated trap,but that is pia also.Camera sends me text photo when it detects motion but it is often raccoon eating my bait or even a moth flying in front of camera.My most successful catch was 22 but the head sow wouldn’t go in first 3 nights,had her on camera standing outside watching the others eat. Finally went in 4th night and I got the whole bunch.
Caught another bunch of 7 at 1:00 am,missed some others at like 3:00am because I didn’t hear the text notification.
Anyone that doesn’t have land has no idea what it’s like dealing with hogs,it’s a never ending exercise in frustration.
Posted on 7/18/19 at 3:54 pm to LSUA 75
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Anyone that doesn’t have land has no idea what it’s like dealing with hogs,it’s a never ending exercise in frustration.
Truth. But, trapping the entire sounder is the only way to go. Shooting them doesn't do jack.
Posted on 7/21/19 at 12:24 pm to baobabtiger
Really curious how many acres youre talking about. It may not be worth the investment to buy all the equipment when you can have someone harvest them on shares
Also soil is as important as rain when growing anything.
As far as financing, id look into a first time farmers loan. I was able to get a basic business line of credit from my local bank for my farm. All I owe is intrest on what ive spent each month and its open as long as I need it. May not work for you since you wont have any returns for a very long time.
If youre just looking to get tax write offs, familiarize yourself with the Schedule F (1040) tax form. See what they are looking for and what you can do to fit that.
My farm is on family land ( no written lease) and I didn't have to set up an LLC or anything similar. I may not have done it the best way possible but its the easiest
Also soil is as important as rain when growing anything.
As far as financing, id look into a first time farmers loan. I was able to get a basic business line of credit from my local bank for my farm. All I owe is intrest on what ive spent each month and its open as long as I need it. May not work for you since you wont have any returns for a very long time.
If youre just looking to get tax write offs, familiarize yourself with the Schedule F (1040) tax form. See what they are looking for and what you can do to fit that.
My farm is on family land ( no written lease) and I didn't have to set up an LLC or anything similar. I may not have done it the best way possible but its the easiest
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