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re: Marketing Jobs - What is the average income?

Posted on 6/30/18 at 7:37 am to
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 7:37 am to
Marketing degrees are not in high demand. There’s way too many average people with marketing degrees. The only marketing degrees doing really well are ones from a small set of very specific schools that are known for marketing. Mostly Ivy League schools, but not all of the Ivy League schools, and a couple other random ones. Fortune 100 companies with massive marketing budgets target very specific schools and only hire from them for marketing jobs. Everyone else is making a pretty average salary
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
32754 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 7:41 am to
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Nothing pays 110k out of schoo

I have a few friends that are engineers from MIT. They made 110k after taking jobs in the Houston area straight out of their bachelors degree. Yes $110k is high, but there are some few people making that fresh out of a bachelors degree
Posted by southernelite
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2009
53561 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:01 am to
That’s true for pretty much any degree these days. Some exceptions, but few.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
25025 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:39 am to
The question wasn’t about an “every man” and there are well paying Marketing jobs for the top talent. If you have an undergrad degree from LSUS in Marketing it is unlikely you access these jobs but that doesn’t mean they don’t exist.

For a run of the mill grad in any discipline the job market is likely difficult.

I will never understand why the downvotes rain when I’m a hiring manager with firsthand knowledge of the market and these positions. These positions are unlikely in Baton Rouge but I thought this board was broader than only Louisiana.
This post was edited on 6/30/18 at 11:33 am
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
25025 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:46 am to
TRG is cultish honestly. It’s a great starting point for a lot of grads in Dallas but they pay terribly early on. It takes 7-8 years before the pay gets a bit better but they work their people hard in the early years and have really high burn out rates. It’s no different than most ad agencies in that regard.

Account management starts paying alright at the Director level but it’s a grind to get there. I believe the Creative side is similar but I do not have exposure there.
This post was edited on 6/30/18 at 9:47 am
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37211 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:55 am to
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The question wasn’t about an “every man


quote:

Marketing Jobs - What is the average income?


Oh really?
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
25025 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 10:58 am to
Making $40K 5-6 years out of undergrad is below average. There’s not much more to discuss if we want to end the conversation there.

Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 11:06 am to
Posted by MusclesofBrussels
Member since Dec 2015
4937 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 11:14 am to
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lynxcat


You get a lot of down votes because you've always been annoyingly pretentious
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
25025 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 11:29 am to
I post from my experience and hope that everyone else on this board would as well. It would add greatly to a board that has slowed down over the years and has especially seen a drop off from its young posters (kfiz, Athan, RSBR).

I’m never going to post from a Louisiana-centric viewpoint and that’s going to rub some people the wrong way. I have a “big city” view of the job market because that’s what I’ve always pursued and where I can provide information. If someone is interested in the job market in Lafayette, then I won’t post in the thread.
This post was edited on 6/30/18 at 11:30 am
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37211 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 11:36 am to
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I post from my experience and hope that everyone else on this board would as well.


You post to subtle grab 90% of the time. It'll have hardly anything to do with the actual question, but you'll tell everyone how much money you make or how good your MBA is.
Posted by Louie T
Member since Dec 2006
36601 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 11:48 am to
Then let's try not to speak in absolutes, mongoloid.

There are jobs LSU graduates can waltz into 1st year and rack 6 figures if you graduate top of class and make a targeted effort. They aren't the norm; however they certainly do exist, and aren't some amazing rarity, particularly if you're going to a higher end school than LSU.
Posted by chillygentilly
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Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 11:56 am to
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As said it really depends on the company and location, my wife is in marketing. Many in marketing are their companies only employee in that field, so the pay is dependent on the size of the company. If she works for a marketing firm that's a little different.



All true. My wife was a Marketing Director and one person show at small architecture firm, but made crap money because the architects made crap money. She now works in marketing communications for one of the larger law firms in the area and does much, much better.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
25025 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 12:07 pm to
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Mingo Was His NameO


I’ve posted on this board since my early undergrad days. I’d hope the context of my posts would change over that time. I researched MBA programs or attended one for basically the last decade and work with folks that went to schools around the country so it’s a topic that’s intimately familiar. There is not “subtle brag” about it unless you want to read into it that way. It’s a fact that certain programs open doors that are otherwise closed but that doesn’t mean I agree it should be that way. I am pretty indifferent about my MBA but recognize it was literally a price of admission for the long-term.

Regarding income, I don’t regard ever posting specifics and most of my posts on that topic are in threads on retirement savings countering the absurdly conservative “save everything” posters and instead advocating for balance, especially while young. Income isn’t a dick measuring contest unless someone makes it that way. There is no reason for income to be a taboo topic to discuss regardless of someone being a low or high earner.
Posted by LSUTOM07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
780 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 1:15 pm to
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There is no reason for income to be a taboo topic


On this board, there seem to be many that choose not to acknowledge the earning potential or success that comes along with top universities, specific geographic locations, or booming fields. I personally enjoy input from those on here that are experiencing success. I feel like that's the whole point of "Money Talk".
Posted by helluvaday
Member since Jun 2018
443 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 6:12 pm to
Depends on several factors including location as mentioned here but also the industry and your specialization. I live in the mid-west and am in charge of a small marketing team and oversee strategy and brand development. I make $90,000/year + bonuses (8 years of work experience).

Different industries pay different wages and someone who deals with SEO/SEM is going to make more than say a content writer.
This post was edited on 6/30/18 at 6:17 pm
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14970 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:03 pm to
The title of the thread literally included a question involving the word average. If Everyman isn’t synonymous with the term average then it’s obvious you may need some remedial courses in English or reading comprehension.

In other words, you’re completely incorrect and your response seems to double down and start-again-talking about anecdotal information that isn’t really applicable to the very simple question about “average income”. A term which appeared in the thread’s title which included a question which you are somehow trying to say it’s not.

Are you always so wont to overlook things so simple on the way to unfurling pedantic responses based on your anecdotal experience?
Posted by tigercross
Member since Feb 2008
5060 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 11:55 pm to
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The only marketing degrees doing really well are ones from a small set of very specific schools that are known for marketing. Mostly Ivy League schools, but not all of the Ivy League schools, and a couple other random ones.


Do any of the Ivies even offer a BS or BA in marketing?
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
25025 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 2:15 am to
Link him PayScale and end the thread there if the only thing of value is quantitative data on average salaries.

LINK

Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14970 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 7:39 am to
You can contribute whatever you think brings value. It’s just that for the OP and the dialogue he’s looking for, you may want to actually try to answer his question. Seeing as how that’s where he derives his value.

No one has told you what to do. We are pointing out what it is that you aren’t doing. Which you seem a tad perturbed by.
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