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Look at the chart, look at the theme. I can’t buy enough FSLR

Posted on 7/21/26 at 7:42 pm
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
25747 posts
Posted on 7/21/26 at 7:42 pm
First Solar.
Long, long multi decade compounder with a healthy balance sheet and sunny skies ahead…



Look at these metrics with this chart in a theme this HOT, and find me a better setup.
This post was edited on 7/21/26 at 7:48 pm
Posted by TDFreak
Coast to Coast - L.A. to Chicago
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 7/21/26 at 8:00 pm to
I have checked on them occasionally. Solar isn’t going away; Just like EVs.

Also thinking a democrat midterm win might boost their status on Wall Street.

Have you thought about the TAN solar ETF?
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
25747 posts
Posted on 7/21/26 at 8:14 pm to
quote:

Have you thought about the TAN solar ETF?

Yep. Just looked at it actually, but I'd be more likely to just pile into a leader or two. I like FSLR, NXT, and ENPH.
And I like to trade SHLS with options.
Posted by W2NOMO
Member since Jul 2025
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Posted on 7/21/26 at 8:20 pm to
quote:

Have you thought about the TAN solar ETF?

In
Posted by Penn
Jax Beach
Member since Jan 2008
23705 posts
Posted on 7/21/26 at 8:50 pm to
Explain it to me like I’m 5
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
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Posted on 7/21/26 at 8:54 pm to
they have a huge manufacturing facility in new iberia.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
25747 posts
Posted on 7/21/26 at 9:34 pm to
The stock has gone from 305 to 205 based on political fears, so that now most of the fear is baked into the price.

Presently, this is one of the best valuations in the US markets. 7x forward P/E is almost five times cheaper than Walmart, and this is a company that has grown revenues by 26% over three years and is guiding for roughly 35% eps growth over the next year.

None of that is priced in, hence the mind blowing PEG ratio of .30%
A PEG of 1 is considered cheap.

So policy fears have got the price of the stock in a vice grip.

Here's why in plain terms:
First Solar gets about 40% of its revenue from government tax credits for manufacturing in America. Those credits could shrink or disappear depending on who's in power and what they decide. On top of that, the company is waiting to see if new tariffs on Chinese solar materials actually go through before signing new contracts. The stock is cheap because investors are nervous about both. The business is great — the politics are the question mark.

So straight up. I think this stock is terribly mispriced. This is the explanation as to why (with a little help from Claude):

Here's what matters:

Republicans like tariffs on China more than Democrats do. The same administration that solar bulls worry about on tax credits is the most aggressive on trade barriers in modern history. Section 232 on polysilicon derivatives and the Section 337 IP investigation against Chinese TOPCon imports are both live right now, under this administration.

So the two policy risks actually hedge each other across parties:

Republicans — might trim solar credits, but will maintain or increase the tariff wall against Chinese panels. First Solar keeps its pricing power even if the subsidy shrinks, because the competition can't get in.

Democrats — would preserve or expand credits, but might soften China trade posture. Credits offset any pricing pressure from increased Chinese competition.

The only scenario that actually kills FSLR is both at once — credits stripped AND tariffs dropped. A Republican Congress gutting domestic manufacturing credits while simultaneously letting Chinese solar in duty-free. That combination contradicts itself politically. The members protecting factory jobs in Ohio aren't voting to let Chinese competitors undercut those same factories.

That's why this is mispriced. The market is treating the two risks as additive when they're actually inverse. And First Solar is the one US solar company that benefits from the tariff wall most directly, because it doesn't use polysilicon at all — its thin-film process completely sidesteps the input that tariffs are targeting.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
25747 posts
Posted on 7/21/26 at 10:10 pm to
The chat continues...
I basically told Claude that there's no way the market just gives you a gift like this, and then there was some clarification...

Claude: The political hedge is real. The valuation is genuinely attractive. The business is the best in its sector by a wide margin. But the market isn't just mispricing politics — it's pricing a demand freeze of unknown duration, rate-sensitive project economics, credit uncertainty on a continuum rather than a binary, and sector-wide derating. Some of those resolve in your favor. Some might not.

So I think most of that is filler other than the demand freeze. So I needed to know what that was about. Honestly, it's not as bad as it sounds. So I think this is still a favorable price at 205.

So why is there a demand freeze? Is that management sandbagging?

Claude: The sandbagging case is strong. Management explicitly said they are being "highly selective" and waiting for the Section 232 tariff decision before booking aggressively. They have 47.9 GW of backlog through 2030 and US facilities running at 96% utilization. They are capacity-constrained, not demand-constrained. A company that is sold out does not need to book aggressively — it needs to book at the best possible price.

If Section 232 lands and Chinese crystalline silicon gets hit with additional duties, every utility-scale buyer in America has fewer alternatives, and First Solar's next round of contracts prices higher. Why would you lock in volume today at $X when you might get $X+15% in four months?

That's not a demand freeze. That's a seller waiting for leverage.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
25747 posts
Posted on 7/21/26 at 10:11 pm to
More: The genuine pause is also real, but it's the customer side. A utility developer planning a 2028 project needs to commit to panels now because lead times are long. But that developer also finances the project with debt, and rates haven't come down. So the developer's internal rate of return model may not clear hurdle, and they wait. That's real demand deferral, not sandbagging, and First Solar can't fix it by cutting price because they're already sold out at current capacity.

Here's the thing that tells you which one dominates. They reaffirmed guidance. Revenue $4.9-5.2B, EBITDA $2.6-2.8B, unchanged. If the booking pause were a genuine demand problem threatening near-term results, guidance would have moved. It didn't. The backlog they already have covers the guidance window. The bookings they're withholding are 2028-2029 vintage contracts that don't affect 2026 or 2027 revenue.

So the honest read is: management is sandbagging on future bookings to capture better pricing, the tape is punishing them for it because the headline number looks soft, and you're buying a stock that is down 33% partly because the CEO is playing his hand well and the market can't tell the difference between discipline and weakness.

The risk that remains after you accept all of that: what if Section 232 doesn't land, rates stay elevated, and the booking window reopens into a weaker pricing environment than management expected? Then they waited for leverage that never arrived, and the next booking cycle prices at or below today's levels rather than above. That outcome doesn't kill the company — the backlog still carries them — but it kills the upside catalyst that justifies paying attention now rather than later.

At $205 with that backlog and balance sheet, I think you're being paid for that risk. But I wanted you to see the scenario where the sandbagging thesis is right on intent and wrong on outcome.


Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
25747 posts
Posted on 7/21/26 at 10:13 pm to
TLDR Summary:

First Solar trades at roughly 7x EV/EBITDA with 50% margins, 24% revenue growth, $2B net cash, and a $14.4B backlog covering 70% of enterprise value. It's down 33% while earnings grew 65%. The stock is cheap because of two fears: government tax credits getting cut, and tariff uncertainty.

Both fears are likely overblown.

The current administration is the worst-case scenario for solar credits, and 45X survived because it funds manufacturing jobs in red states. Meanwhile, Republicans are *more* hawkish on China tariffs, which protect First Solar's pricing power. The two risks hedge each other across parties. The only scenario that kills the thesis — credits stripped AND tariffs dropped simultaneously — contradicts itself politically.

The booking slowdown (1.7 GW booked vs 3.8 GW sold) looks like management waiting for Section 232 to land so they can price the next contract cycle higher, not genuine demand weakness. They reaffirmed full-year guidance, which tells you the existing backlog covers the window.

Real risks remain: elevated rates pressuring project economics, potential credit phase-downs rather than outright cuts, Chinese circumvention through Southeast Asia, and sector-wide fund outflows hitting the most liquid name first.

At $205 the balance sheet and backlog protect the downside while the policy resolution provides the catalyst.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
25747 posts
Posted on 7/21/26 at 10:24 pm to
I ran a fantastic write up from reddit through Gemini and got an extremely helpful response:

I. THE CORE THESIS

First Solar is generating a massive amount of cash right now, largely thanks to government subsidies. The stock looks cheap because pessimistic investors think the company will be worthless once those subsidies expire in the early 2030s. However, the writer points out that if you strip away temporary growing pains, like opening new factories and shipping issues, First Solar still runs a solid, profitable core business. The subsidies are just supercharging it.

II. THE UPSIDE

Over the next seven years, First Solar could generate enough cash to equal 75% of its entire current market value. If management uses that mountain of cash to aggressively buy back their own stock, the share price could skyrocket.

III. THE REAL RISKS

While the business is not going bankrupt, there are three big threats that could make the stock dead money:

1. Flimsy contracts: First Solar claims they are sold out for years, but buyers have escape clauses. If global panel prices crash, customers might just pay a penalty to break their contracts and buy cheaper panels elsewhere.

2. The technology trap: The whole industry is racing to build next-generation tandem solar cells. If a competitor cracks the code first, First Solar's current factories could be pumping out outdated tech.

3. Wasting the cash: First Solar management has historically loved building new factories rather than returning cash to shareholders. If they hoard this new subsidy wealth or invest it into unneeded factories during a demand slump, investors will not see a return.

IV. THE BOTTOM LINE

You are buying a heavily subsidized cash machine at a decent price. The real gamble is not whether the business survives, but whether management actually decides to reward shareholders with that cash instead of wasting it.
This post was edited on 7/21/26 at 10:25 pm
Posted by Penn
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/21/26 at 11:34 pm to
Man, I like you BB88
One day I want to buy you a beer
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
25747 posts
Posted on 7/22/26 at 6:24 am to

I’m good for a pitcher.

Well, I’ve got to say, I’m learning about solar, and the high interest rates are definitely an issue, but FSLR is less exposed than say, ENPH.

I am a buy first, investigate later, kinda guy. But I only hold 25 shares at the moment.
This is a tough market right now!
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
15061 posts
Posted on 7/22/26 at 7:49 am to
with ITC gone for commercial developments (unless already bought the safe harbor 5%) the numbers are not there for solar to pay for itself.

unless the next administration revives ITC, solar is going to hurt. its tech that still needs subsidies to make it worth the investment, but that is another 2+years and congressional legislation

quote:

The 30% commercial Investment Tax Credit (ITC) officially phases out if projects miss two key deadlines. For the full 30% credit, construction must begin by July 4, 2026 (or safe-harbored via a 5% deposit) and be operational by December 31, 2030. Otherwise, the system must be installed and placed in service by December 31, 2027.



residential solar was hit as well:

quote:

The 30% Federal Residential Clean Energy Credit (ITC) expired for customer-owned residential solar and standalone battery systems purchased outright or via loan after December 31, 2025. However, homeowners can still access the ITC through third-party arrangements like solar leases or Power Purchase Agreements (PPAs), which remain eligible through 2027.



so there are still loop holes that can be accessed to continue to get the credit, but with 3rd parties comes another entity marking up costs in the process


so if someone has secured the 5% safe harbor investment (bought some of the panels, solar companies can still sell the remainder for the projects, but have until dec 31, 2030 do go into service. Utility interconnects and connection the the energy providers transition lines could still prevent going into service and losing the credit.

"past performance not indicative of future results" comes into play here.....the business model has changed

EDIT:

and because of the ITC credit expiring, there was a rush to get orders in before the deadline. so 2nd qtr numbers should be higher because of this
This post was edited on 7/22/26 at 10:50 am
Posted by CheesyF
Member since May 2017
549 posts
Posted on 7/22/26 at 9:05 am to
FWIW, StalkTalk loves FSLR, thinks upcoming earnings will rip in favor of solar. His cost basis is 230-something.

Thx for the reminder to get in this one
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
25747 posts
Posted on 7/22/26 at 11:56 am to
40 @ 205.84

You're right. He thinks its going to become a big theme again in 2H this year.
From what I can tell, he's in it for the macro adoption:

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That said, I can tell that he's pissed that he got into TE too high as well.
This post was edited on 7/22/26 at 11:57 am
Posted by LSUcam7
FL
Member since Sep 2016
9015 posts
Posted on 7/22/26 at 11:59 am to
NXT is not a terrible chart in solar.

They have essentially no debt.
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Posted on 7/22/26 at 1:17 pm to
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with ITC gone for commercial developments (unless already bought the safe harbor 5%) the numbers are not there for solar to pay for itself.

I’m currently researching a micro-cap solar company that is pivoting away from the need for ITC subsidies. If anyone is interested I’ll share what I have so far:

Sunpower - $SPWR
A helium company turned AI datacenter power gen company…similar to KEEL’s pivot if KEEL’s pivot to datacenter power was still on step 0.

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Substack Post | $SPWR
quote:

NXT is not a terrible chart in solar. They have essentially no debt.

Basically the opposite for SPWR, I believe it is worth reading that substack post just to gain some knowledge into solar sector, even if you have no intentions of ever touching SPWR. More likely this goes to zero than anything else, but it’s worth a flyer as a moonshot candidate.

Chart is terrible and their debt / cash ratio is enough to make you throw up in your mouth, but that’s why it’s sub $1. I usually steer FAR away from stocks like these, but I plan to take a flyer on it.


The risks are too long to mention outside of that substack post, so use that as some guided reading to start regarding SPWR.
This post was edited on 7/22/26 at 1:33 pm
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