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Jobs number blows out expectations - 528k vs 268k expectation, unemployment falls to 3.5%

Posted on 8/5/22 at 7:37 am
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84893 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 7:37 am
…and rates shoot upward while futures fall.

A weird recession gets weirder.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53003 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 7:39 am to
This is fake

Me and like 6 other people are the only ones that still work. Everybody else is on food stamps
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
14468 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 7:46 am to
Yeah good news is bad news and bad news is good news for the markets Guess we go lower on good news. Will still be buying and adding to a few of my stocks on the dip but more cautiously especially with history of market in Aug and Sept.
This post was edited on 8/5/22 at 7:51 am
Posted by JimMorrison
The Peninsula
Member since May 2012
20747 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 7:47 am to
Clearly, we're not in a recession yet, but this supports a more hawkish Fed.

Traders got a little too optimistic in this recent rally and mispriced the Fed's last comments.
Posted by zephry801
Member since Dec 2017
434 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 7:48 am to
This could indicate that what the Fed is doing isn't working yet. Futures seem to think the Fed might need to get more aggressive.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84893 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 7:49 am to
Yeah I was in the camp of a bad number means recession is now and the rebound is pulled forward. A blowout number like this means recession is still ahead of us and the rebound gets a littler further out.
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
14468 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 7:56 am to
quote:

Yeah I was in the camp of a bad number means recession is now and the rebound is pulled forward. A blowout number like this means recession is still ahead of us and the rebound gets a littler further out.

Agree
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53003 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 8:05 am to
I don’t know why y’all think the stock market is gonna do anything besides crash 2 months before your expected retirement date
Posted by RobertFootball
SC
Member since Mar 2021
1337 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 8:31 am to
That shows you how many businesses were forced to close because the government forced them to during covid lockdowns. That’s the real number this represents.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58132 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:05 am to
quote:

Guess we go lower on good news.


Yep. LOL
Market is scared now that feds will have to keep up with the aggressive rate increases
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10266 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:09 am to
“but, muh pivot”

-fintwit
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80779 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

Robert Luther
@RobertLutherFL
· 4h
Replying to @cvpayne and @PressSec
how is it possible we “added” 528,000 jobs, but 136,000 fewer are employed than in May?




quote:

Charles V Payne
@cvpayne
·
3h
Household Survey
Full Time -71,000
Part Time +384,000
Multiple Jobs +92,000
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48953 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 1:23 pm to
Numbers are being fudged. I still say we don't see the hit until winter or early next year
Posted by RJSambola
Member since Jun 2012
318 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 1:25 pm to
Labor particpation took 400k out of the work force
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51628 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 2:11 pm to


Since Mid-March the Initial Jobless Claims have risen fairly steadily most weeks. With this last week being no different and the Labor Force Participation Rate trending downward since March as well, either the Unemployment numbers are bullshite or an increasing amount of people are simply giving up looking for a job and hopping on the welfare wagon (or possibly some combination of the two, working multiple part-time jobs, etc).

Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 4:02 pm to
I got a 2nd job for the summer for extra cash. Just quit
Posted by Turf Taint
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2021
6010 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 4:41 pm to
Getting a strong sense that the Fed is using old paradigms to define the inflation problem.

Stay tuned for the future Harvard whitepaper that will explain why the emerging factors of:

2020-21 Supply chain stop / start
China (world's manufacturer) Covid lock downs into 2022
Great resignation
Virtualization of workplace
Et al

Are out-foxing the Fed's prognostication tools and likely using inflation-mitigation tools that are too blunt.

Hunch
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
4274 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 5:20 pm to
quote:

Getting a strong sense that the Fed is using old paradigms to define the inflation problem.


Just not sure what the fed can do to reopen China and its production. Until then supply will continue to be low and all they can do is reign in the money supply to depress demand.

The supply siders from yesteryear are having a potential moment. Still odd to me biden has not removed the tariffs remaining from Trump.
This post was edited on 8/5/22 at 9:41 pm
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61270 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 5:22 pm to
quote:

Just not sure what the fed can do to reopen China and its production.


China is done as a major US supplier and will continue to disconnect. Geopolitics will end it completely sooner or later.
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
14061 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 6:46 pm to
Well when the extra jobs are taking because more people are worming multiple and the labor participation rate removes those who are no longer even looking for a job numbers will look different
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