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It's never been this hard for companies to find qualified workers

Posted on 2/24/20 at 10:06 am
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 2/24/20 at 10:06 am
The gap between open jobs and unemployed workers is about as wide as the one between the kinds of available positions and the qualifications that the workforce collectively has to fill them.

A recent survey from the Manpower Group, a job placement firm, exemplifies the chasm: Nearly 7 in 10 employers reported talent shortages in 2019, the worst level ever and a jump of 17 percentage points from just a year ago. It's also more than three times higher than a decade ago.

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Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75215 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 10:07 am to
What’s staggering to me is that it’s 3 times higher than just a decade ago. That’s not that long ago.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/24/20 at 10:13 am to
I wonder how much of that is attributed to companies wanting "turn key" employees only who need little/no training.


You hate to see the "entry level" job posting that automatically filters out every candidate with less than 3 years experience.

My previous company would rather spend 6 months or more short staffed than hire someone with less experience and spend 2-3 months training them. It was maddening.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
33957 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 10:22 am to
I just run a chain restaurant and I am struggling. All that seems to be left is the extremely low skilled and job hoppers
Posted by Auburn80
Backwater, TN
Member since Nov 2017
7514 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 10:24 am to
Excellent point. I have seen several defense contractors who are screening out people without an active security clearance. The only way to get an active security clearance is to work for a company that does defense contracting. They are excluding a lot of talent that could get the clearance quickly once hired.
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
11809 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 10:30 am to
We need better immigration policies ASAP
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75215 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 12:20 pm to
How much of this is relative to immigration?
Posted by Volt
Ascension Island, S Atlantic Ocean
Member since Nov 2009
2960 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 3:32 pm to
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I wonder how much of that is attributed to companies wanting "turn key" employees only who need little/no training.


As a nurse practitioner, this is exactly what is happening. I’ve noticed it more and more since I’ve been an NP just in the past six years.

It’s also as if I’m a specialist in the area of medicine that I’ve been mostly working in the past five years. When I’ve interviewed with someone in this field, they are chomping at the bit to hire me because they can’t find anyone else with my experience.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 2/24/20 at 3:37 pm to
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It's never been this hard for companies to find qualified workers
Sounds like a good time to float resumés
Posted by leoj
Member since Nov 2010
3106 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 4:34 pm to
I’m running into this with my job search. Makes no sense to me
Posted by BitBuster
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 2/24/20 at 4:40 pm to
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I wonder how much of that is attributed to companies wanting "turn key" employees only who need little/no training.


"I'm not going to pay to train someone for their next job." - Most employers
This post was edited on 2/24/20 at 4:41 pm
Posted by oklahogjr
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 2/24/20 at 4:48 pm to
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My previous company would rather spend 6 months or more short staffed than hire someone with less experience and spend 2-3 months training them. It was maddening.


I hate hiring new people. it's a pain in the arse.

Usually if i'm short staffed and haven't hired anyone preemptively it's better. atleast now I have 1 person to do the work. if you hire someone you've got two people tied up. hiring if you're late to hire doesn't really help much especially if you don't see the work staying that level consistently.
Posted by Clint Torres
Member since Oct 2011
2662 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 5:51 pm to
Folks need to learn to code
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20458 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 6:25 pm to
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How much of this is relative to immigration?


0. That’s a BS excuse. Just a couple years ago you heard nothing but ‘economy is great but pay hasn’t increased’. Well guess what people, this is what happens when pay increases. Employers get hard up because they can’t believe the price of labor, have to train people, etc.

Labor isn’t hard to find, cheap good labor is hard to find. If you add 20% to your pay, all of a sudden it’s not that hard to find applicants. This is coming from a small business owner. I’m not happy about it, but there’s a lot of talent out there willing to work. You just have to pay for it.

I disagree with needing immigrants. We aren’t that desperate.
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40536 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 7:30 pm to
Never mind quality workers, I honestly don’t know how retail and food service is finding enough warm bodies at this point.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20458 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 7:40 pm to
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Never mind quality workers, I honestly don’t know how retail and food service is finding enough warm bodies at this point.



Many of them have apps and screens for customers to order their own food, high tech machines that do half the cooking, etc.

But those jobs are mostly unskilled labor like HS kids and what not.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 10:19 pm to
Employers are now findibng out what happens when the pendulum swings away from them, aint easy to find good people on the cheap right now.

FedGov now needs to step up and do its part and cut benefits to force more folks back into the job market.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22389 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 6:14 am to
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I just run a chain restaurant and I am struggling. All that seems to be left is the extremely low skilled and job hoppers


Isn’t that who has always filled jobs at chain restaurants?
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35557 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:44 am to
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If you add 20% to your pay, all of a sudden it’s not that hard to find applicants.


Then I have to raise prices to cover my increased labor costs and I start losing projects. This is coming from a small business owner.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20458 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 8:07 am to
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Then I have to raise prices to cover my increased labor costs and I start losing projects. This is coming from a small business owner.


You are right! That’s part of the circle of business. Business owners have had it great the last 5-10 years. Economy was doing well and labor was cheap. Now economy is doing well and labor is expensive. Business owners have to change work to stay competitive. Everyone wants things to stay the same but there’s always a low guy on the totem pole fighting to get to the top which means things are always changing when the top gets stagnant.

The other option is you specialize and only take projects you can afford or that make more sense financially.

I think we have gotten to peak of, as already said in the thread, employers expecting cheap labor that’s educated and trained. No employers have been offering training programs lately. Now is where that starts to return because they can hire someone for cheap and train them for less then they can hire already trained people.
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