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Is it possible to get a 1 mil real estate loan with 10% down

Posted on 6/21/18 at 10:11 pm
Posted by Finch
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 6/21/18 at 10:11 pm
I’d like to buy a 4plex in Nola that’s around $1 million

Is it possible to do with 100k down?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Posted by TigerDL
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 6/21/18 at 10:28 pm to
It can be done but you may need two loans. One to cover 100K to make the 20% down and the remainder on the rest of the property.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 6/21/18 at 10:32 pm to
What is the ROI going to be on that?
Posted by Finch
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 6/21/18 at 10:38 pm to
It will cash flow with 3 units rented 85% of the time.

Looking to rent 3 and renovate 1. As each unit becomes vacant I would update to add value. Once all 4 are updated I’d either keep 1 and rent 3 or look to sell and take profits.
Posted by MSWebfoot
Hernando
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/22/18 at 5:45 am to
Pretty sure the bank will not allow 2 loans for
quote:

One to cover 100K to make the 20% down and the remainder on the rest of the property.
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The bank wants to know where the money is coming from, and I am pretty sure you will sign something saying the dp is not loaned money.
Your $100k needs to be somewhere the bank can see it and proof where it came from. If it is sitting in your safe, they won't accept it.
Posted by GeauxPack81
Member since Dec 2009
10479 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 8:32 am to
90% LTV on a rental is tough.

Would probably have to secure the loan with additional collateral unless you have extremely strong cashflow or liquidity (which I would imagine not, given 10% down). I know you probably don't want to, but maybe find a partner to also put down 10%?
Posted by Oenophile Brah
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/22/18 at 8:37 am to
Would you mind sharing the expected rental amounts prior to rehab? I’m curious about the numbers in higher end rentals in nola.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 6/22/18 at 8:44 am to
quote:

It will cash flow with 3 units rented 85% of the time


IMO cash flow doesn't mean jack here. Who gives a crap about cash flow on a $900k loan.

You should be talking % return here.

Additionally, is that $900k loan enough to remodel?

What kind of rent are you getting on $250k condos?
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 6/22/18 at 9:09 am to
probably not happening. NOO? expect 25% down for MFH. Remember you can get UP to a 4 plex with a conventional mortgage. You do not have to have commercial which can be 30% down. You can use a loan for the DP but the bank wants to know where that money came from.
This post was edited on 6/22/18 at 9:25 am
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
15511 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 9:41 am to
You will need A LOT of collateral and someone to cosign. The cosign person will need to net 10K+ per month after expenses. You will need to net 5-10K after expenses per month. Also need about 20% down.
Posted by 19thHole
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Posted on 6/22/18 at 9:53 am to
If it is cash flowing with only 3 units rented, why is the owner selling?
Posted by barry
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 6/22/18 at 9:55 am to
quote:

If it is cash flowing with only 3 units rented, why is the owner selling?



Some people need liquidity
Posted by 19thHole
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Posted on 6/22/18 at 9:59 am to
I'd check if the owner is doing a 1031
Posted by gsvar2004
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 6/22/18 at 9:59 am to
Call cardinal capital out of BR if anyone can do a 90% ltv it’s them, but it may cost you.
Posted by Decisions
Member since Mar 2015
1471 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 12:18 pm to
I doubt it. Nothing risked, nothing gained and all that jazz. Just do like any other entrepreneur with an idea/ROI analysis they really believe in: put your money where your mouth is and take out a HELOC or the equivalent.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20376 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 12:47 pm to
I'd also like to know what interest rate you have in your formula to 'cash flow'. Because without knowing if you can even loan the money, I'm guessing that you have no idea what your rate would be?

A $900k loan is going to be a higher rate then a $250k mortgage. Usually a good 1% or more higher than prime in my limited experience. But I wouldn't doubt you'd be looking at more than that.
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
5842 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 1:11 pm to
The short answer is no. I will explain now. It's 4plex investment jumbo property. That requires 25% down because of the number of units. Also no one i do business with offers a jumbo loan on a 4 plex. So you are capped at a loan amount of 454,100. Take my 15yrs of experience and move on.
Posted by LSU6262
Member since Jun 2008
7486 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

IMO cash flow doesn't mean jack here. Who gives a crap about cash flow on a $900k loan.


The bank. Cash flow is king when it comes to business lending. The bank also hates income from rental property
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4074 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 3:42 pm to
quote:

It will cash flow with 3 units rented 85% of the time.
Looking to rent 3 and renovate 1. As each unit becomes vacant I would update to add value. Once all 4 are updated I’d either keep 1 and rent 3 or look to sell and take profits.


I think I'm a little lost. Are you planning on occupying one of the units in this property as your primary residence? I don't know what you mean by "keep 1 and rent 3."

The most recent maximum loan limit chart that I got from my banker a few months ago set the conforming loan limit for a 4-plex at $871,450 ($1,307,175 for high cost areas). If you're going owner occupied, you might be close with a 10% DP, depending on your debt-to-income situation.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
72360 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 8:43 pm to
quote:

The bank also hates income from rental property




income is income. my banks love it.
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