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Homebuilders advice thread
Posted on 6/25/12 at 9:05 am
Posted on 6/25/12 at 9:05 am
For all those that have built homes, currently building a home, or work in the industry what is some advice you would give to someone about to begin the process? (INB4 don't do it.)
Posted on 6/25/12 at 9:06 am to saderade
what are you looking to do? Build a house without a general contractor?
Posted on 6/25/12 at 9:16 am to Chad504boy
If you are trying to do it without a contractor, expect to be out there most of the time.
Posted on 6/25/12 at 9:27 am to saderade
What size/ level of amenities you looking to achieve? Are you looking for a general contractor to sub this out for you, do it yourself, or buy from a builders inventory? Do you have plans, a lot your looking at?
This post was edited on 6/25/12 at 9:34 am
Posted on 6/25/12 at 9:34 am to saderade
If you have to ask, you're not ready for the challenge..!!
Posted on 6/25/12 at 9:35 am to LSUtiger09
quote:Thank god most of us grew up knowing how to do everything already.
If you have to ask, you're not ready for the challenge..!!
Posted on 6/25/12 at 9:50 am to saderade
Take your time with the plans. Cross all the T's and dot all the i's.
Here are a few things you may not think of that bit us.
1)Look over the electrical plan. Adding recess cans and switches later will cause you to go over budget.
2) If you plan to have the front loader washer and dryer, add room in the laundry room for them. They stick out alot more then the standard units and you have to account for swing doors.
3)Also think about how you are going to do window treatments. Alot of people like arched windows, but if you plan to do wood blinds they don't work so well. You either need to get plantation shutters (which are $$$) or hang drapes. Ask the wife now what she wants it will help down the road.
4)Pre wire, Pre wire, Pre wire. If you are an electronics freak. Wire for speakers even in rooms you may not want speakers in now. Whole house systems are cheap if things are prewired. Also think about running Cat 5 or Cat 6 from a computer room to the TVs. sure wireless is good but hardwire is better for not that much more $$$. Run hdmi or componant cables to an outdoor Tv for HD outside. Definitly do a security system even if you never plan to get coverage. Its like $500 to pre wire the house and install the key pads.
From one Crusader to the next hope this helps.
Also subbing it out yourself can be done, but get good subs and expect to spend alot of time on site.
Here are a few things you may not think of that bit us.
1)Look over the electrical plan. Adding recess cans and switches later will cause you to go over budget.
2) If you plan to have the front loader washer and dryer, add room in the laundry room for them. They stick out alot more then the standard units and you have to account for swing doors.
3)Also think about how you are going to do window treatments. Alot of people like arched windows, but if you plan to do wood blinds they don't work so well. You either need to get plantation shutters (which are $$$) or hang drapes. Ask the wife now what she wants it will help down the road.
4)Pre wire, Pre wire, Pre wire. If you are an electronics freak. Wire for speakers even in rooms you may not want speakers in now. Whole house systems are cheap if things are prewired. Also think about running Cat 5 or Cat 6 from a computer room to the TVs. sure wireless is good but hardwire is better for not that much more $$$. Run hdmi or componant cables to an outdoor Tv for HD outside. Definitly do a security system even if you never plan to get coverage. Its like $500 to pre wire the house and install the key pads.
From one Crusader to the next hope this helps.
Also subbing it out yourself can be done, but get good subs and expect to spend alot of time on site.
Posted on 6/25/12 at 10:03 am to TigerDeBaiter
quote:4 bedroom, 3-3.5 bath. Anywhere between 2200-3000sf would be my guess. We just have the lot at the moment. It is a corner lot in a suburb area. We have begun to look at other houses in the area to see what we like. Luckily the neighborhood has multiple new constructions.
What size/ level of amenities you looking to achieve?
quote:We are really open to all ideas, which is one of the reasons I came here. Doing it yourself with subs sounds like a pain in the arse after talking to people. I have some connections in plumbing, lighting, roofing, and flooring fwiw. I am in a totally unrelated field of work and inexperienced with construction
Are you looking for a general contractor to sub this out for you, do it yourself, or buy from a builders inventory?
Posted on 6/25/12 at 10:29 am to saderade
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We are really open to all ideas, which is one of the reasons I came here.
having someone to manage the jobsite, subcontractors and understands the permitting/inspection process is a huge benefit. The key is laying out a formal submittal/approval process along with a clearly defined way to process draw requests and invoices (assuming you're carrying the construction loan). You don't want to find out that 70% of your budget has been spent and the house isn't even 50% complete.
Posted on 6/25/12 at 10:59 am to ForeLSU
We are pouring the driveway this week. Personally, there is no way I would have the amount of time needed to be at the site. It took me about a week to realize that hiring a general contractor was the best decision for me. Unless you are doing something that is very unique, I wouldn't waste $$ on an architect. Most home designers have designed something very similar to what you are wanting to do. I'm not an electronics guy, but I did have them run cat 6 to a few rooms and also had them put in pulls to all other rooms in case I wanted to add it in the future. The best advice I can give is to spend lots of time scrutinizing the plans. That way you aren't faced with too many suprises during the build.
Posted on 6/25/12 at 11:00 am to saderade
Spend the extra money on spray foam insulation and proper A/C for the spray foam...
Posted on 6/25/12 at 11:21 am to saderade
I would iron out your plans and amenities you want then go shopping for a general contractor/ custom builder then. They should be able to give you a good idea on cost at that point.
Whoever you find to manage the construction may or may not want to work with your subcontractors, so that's definitely worth mentioning while your looking for a GC.
Whoever you find to manage the construction may or may not want to work with your subcontractors, so that's definitely worth mentioning while your looking for a GC.
Posted on 6/25/12 at 11:24 am to wickowick
I'd stay away from spray insulation, but Definatley upgrade your r-value and do a loose fill with a netting on the walls. Batt insulation collapses easily. The spray, if done wrong can be a complete nightmare, to the extent the it will actually rain inside your attic. Also, use a tech shield (or similar product) for your roof decking to create a radiant barrier.
Posted on 6/25/12 at 12:07 pm to TigerDeBaiter
First off, whatever you prequalify for have lender put 25k less than you intend to spend. Important when negotiating with builders.
I 2nd the tech shield, used LP version and every sub working out there has commented its the coolest house they've ever worked, despite the temp. It's an amazing product.
Ask to see all suppliers "builder's grade" selections before you sign a contract. It's amazing what you can pick from before they get contract vs after.
Make sure you have all fixtures in writing on contract (tubs, sinks, faucets, lighting, hinges, doorknobs, etc...) If you want Kohler tubs in biscuit color and Moen bronze faucets, put it in contract as "no exceptions". Builders like to use terms like "equivalent" for fixtures, and that is where they cut.
A trick I use is putting recessed lights over all bath vanities, looks better than stupid bar sticking out your wall and doesn't eat up lighting budget on a ugly fixture.
Over prewire as mentioned, making sure you include ceiling fans in all initial drawings wherever you may want a ceiling fan. I have 3 cable outlets for living room alone, nice during football season when using multiple TV's.
10 foot ceilings are about a dollar more per square foot than 9, and will pay for themselves the first few years alone in A/C bills, especially here in south. 10 foot is the new 9 foot.
Make sure you are clear about baseboards/crown. If you do hardwoods over 4" use engineered, not sand and finish.
Soft close cabinets in kitchen and bathrooms. 36" counter height in all bathrooms. Schluter systems in every bathroom no exceptions. Walls and floors. Elongated toilets.
Get appliance allowance and buy online, AJ Madison, for example, will ship to your door free and no taxes. Saved almost 3 grand over builders supplier prices.
If you drive SUV's go with 9 foot garage doors vs 8 foot.
Brick as much as possible, especially steps. Cement fiber is good but brick is better. Stay away from vinyl anything.
Crawl is better than slab foundation.
I 2nd the tech shield, used LP version and every sub working out there has commented its the coolest house they've ever worked, despite the temp. It's an amazing product.
Ask to see all suppliers "builder's grade" selections before you sign a contract. It's amazing what you can pick from before they get contract vs after.
Make sure you have all fixtures in writing on contract (tubs, sinks, faucets, lighting, hinges, doorknobs, etc...) If you want Kohler tubs in biscuit color and Moen bronze faucets, put it in contract as "no exceptions". Builders like to use terms like "equivalent" for fixtures, and that is where they cut.
A trick I use is putting recessed lights over all bath vanities, looks better than stupid bar sticking out your wall and doesn't eat up lighting budget on a ugly fixture.
Over prewire as mentioned, making sure you include ceiling fans in all initial drawings wherever you may want a ceiling fan. I have 3 cable outlets for living room alone, nice during football season when using multiple TV's.
10 foot ceilings are about a dollar more per square foot than 9, and will pay for themselves the first few years alone in A/C bills, especially here in south. 10 foot is the new 9 foot.
Make sure you are clear about baseboards/crown. If you do hardwoods over 4" use engineered, not sand and finish.
Soft close cabinets in kitchen and bathrooms. 36" counter height in all bathrooms. Schluter systems in every bathroom no exceptions. Walls and floors. Elongated toilets.
Get appliance allowance and buy online, AJ Madison, for example, will ship to your door free and no taxes. Saved almost 3 grand over builders supplier prices.
If you drive SUV's go with 9 foot garage doors vs 8 foot.
Brick as much as possible, especially steps. Cement fiber is good but brick is better. Stay away from vinyl anything.
Crawl is better than slab foundation.
This post was edited on 6/25/12 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 6/25/12 at 12:44 pm to ItNeverRains
Whats the average time frame for completion? Say you have the lot but no plans, permits, or contracts. Just curious, thanks
Posted on 6/25/12 at 1:25 pm to saderade
Get a good set of plans.
So that Contractors bid apples to apples.
So that Contractors bid apples to apples.
Posted on 6/25/12 at 2:33 pm to saderade
Add 30% to whatever they quote you....
Stay on their arse, if not you will have shoddy work..
Inspect everyday and ask questions...
Don't befriend them, it will cost you more $$$

Stay on their arse, if not you will have shoddy work..
Inspect everyday and ask questions...
Don't befriend them, it will cost you more $$$
Posted on 6/25/12 at 2:53 pm to LawLessTyGer
We are projected to be about $6-7k over budget. We started 2/9 and should be finished end of July.
Posted on 6/25/12 at 3:07 pm to guttata
quote:
We started 2/9 and should be finished end of July.
is that just construction or design and construction? And depending on the budget 6-7K doesnt seem to bad.
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