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Help my strategy to buy my dream property
Posted on 12/11/20 at 11:31 pm
Posted on 12/11/20 at 11:31 pm
My dream property has come up for sale. It’s a piece of raw land out in the country. The wife and I have had a set of house plans that we’ve been saving up for. Here’s my dilemma. I have enough money to buy either the land or build the house. Not both. However, with my current mortgage, if I buy the land it’ll put me out of my comfort range with my budget. So here is my solution. Raw land loans have shorter terms and higher rates. But if I were to get a construction loan and build a 2 car garage with an above apartment (going to build the future house by the garage) I could get a traditional mortgage/construction loan. I could then live in the garage for a year while I save up enough money to build the house. The equity in the land/garage from me improving the land should also help me reach the needed amount faster. Does this sound doable? What financial pit falls am I missing? I don’t want the desire of the land to cloud my judgment.
Posted on 12/11/20 at 11:37 pm to GAFF
There will always be another property. Sounds like you are going to have to get very uncomfortable to make this happen.
Posted on 12/12/20 at 1:59 am to GAFF
Is this a second home or are you selling the first home and factoring in the sale proceeds for the purchase of the land?
This post was edited on 12/12/20 at 6:07 am
Posted on 12/12/20 at 5:58 am to GAFF
Do you have a home now with a mortgage?
If so, sell it and buy / build on the new spot
If not, can you borrow from non traditional sources?
If so, sell it and buy / build on the new spot
If not, can you borrow from non traditional sources?
Posted on 12/12/20 at 5:59 am to GAFF
What about selling your house and living in a camper with your stuff in storage while you build?
Posted on 12/12/20 at 6:12 am to GAFF
Lumber/materials costs are sky high right now.
Today’s dream isn’t necessarily tomorrow’s plan. Sounds like you’re saving and being prudent. Don’t jump the gun and leap at property now. When the time is right, look for land. You’re not ready to buy or build yet. Patience......
Today’s dream isn’t necessarily tomorrow’s plan. Sounds like you’re saving and being prudent. Don’t jump the gun and leap at property now. When the time is right, look for land. You’re not ready to buy or build yet. Patience......
Posted on 12/12/20 at 6:14 am to GAFF
Dream on.
Dream on.
Dream until your dreams come true.
A house is a place to live. Just need one. It does not sound like you want to leverage yourself to the hilt to do this right now.
Dream on.
Dream until your dreams come true.
A house is a place to live. Just need one. It does not sound like you want to leverage yourself to the hilt to do this right now.
Posted on 12/12/20 at 7:48 am to hungryone
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Lumber/materials costs are sky high right now.
Do they ever go down?
Posted on 12/12/20 at 8:19 am to GAFF
If you can consider the property recreational you can get a 15 year loan for around 4% from the Louisiana land bank.
But I wouldn't suggest stretching yourself on building a garage with an apartment. You may also have tough time getting another loan to build the house if there is an existing structure and loan on the property.
But I wouldn't suggest stretching yourself on building a garage with an apartment. You may also have tough time getting another loan to build the house if there is an existing structure and loan on the property.
Posted on 12/12/20 at 8:41 am to MrJimBeam
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Do you have a home now with a mortgage?
If so, sell it and buy / build on the new spot
I do currently own a home.
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What about selling your house and living in a camper with your stuff in storage while you build
This is kind of what my plan is with the 2 car garage. While the garage apartment won't be much bigger than the camper it would be bigger and it would be an expense that would be part of the house where a camper would just be an additional expense. Plus building the garage apartment would hopefully give me added equity when I start to build the home (plan on using equity from the land to help with down payment on house).
I avoided explaining everything in my initial post in fear people would see a wall of text and move on. So for those who are truly interested in helping here is my dilemma.
I currently only have the funds for a down payment on either the land (30%) or the house (20%), not both. The down payment would be in the neighborhood of 60K. The down payment needed for the house and land would be around 110K. I don't want to leverage myself to where I'm making my current mortgage payment and an additional land loan payment every month. So my idea was to get a construction loan to buy the land and build a 2 car garage with above apartment (which will be a detached 2 car garage beside my house when everything is completed). Doing this will require only 20% down instead of the 30% for the land and save me about 10k in cash on the down payment. I then can sell my current house and free up my monthly mortgage so I'm not paying for both. Once the garage is completed I would then roll the construction loan into a traditional loan. By now my land should have improved (water, power, and septic) and should appraise for more. I would then apply for a new construction loan using my land as collateral (I'm aware I still may need a little more cash to add to this) thus giving me the needed funds to start the building process. I know it's very complex but that is my current plan.
Posted on 12/12/20 at 10:07 am to GAFF
I truly understand you are trying to make it work. I've been there. My advice would be to wait. There is going to be more expense than you think with all the options you included.
If, in your mind, the property is absolutely can't miss, I would find some way to buy the property, stay in my current home, and continue to pay off the property.. This would allow construction cost to hopefully normalize a bit again. It would also allow you to fully leverage the land for the house down payment.
If, in your mind, the property is absolutely can't miss, I would find some way to buy the property, stay in my current home, and continue to pay off the property.. This would allow construction cost to hopefully normalize a bit again. It would also allow you to fully leverage the land for the house down payment.
Posted on 12/12/20 at 11:08 am to GeauxTigers777
Friend did that....lived in apartment above (barn)...instead of garage...decided he did not want to live out in the country after all...sold the property...
I considered this once but was going to buy a lot on a lake and build a nice boathouse(guesthouse) and later build the house proper...
Retired now and have a recreation condo and a house with lots of wasted space that collects dust...
I considered this once but was going to buy a lot on a lake and build a nice boathouse(guesthouse) and later build the house proper...
Retired now and have a recreation condo and a house with lots of wasted space that collects dust...
Posted on 12/12/20 at 1:42 pm to GAFF
I say go for it. You’ve obviously given it a lot of thought and it’s important to you. There’s some risk involved but that’s life.
Posted on 12/12/20 at 5:34 pm to hungryone
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Lumber/materials costs are sky high right now. Today’s dream isn’t necessarily tomorrow’s plan. Sounds like you’re saving and being prudent. Don’t jump the gun and leap at property now. When the time is right, look for land. You’re not ready to buy or build yet. Patience......
Balance material prices and interest rates though.
Posted on 12/12/20 at 10:16 pm to CollegeFBRules
I agree...
Although building materials are higher, assuming you have good credit, your mortgage rate guarantees damn near free money.
Buy the property and build a nice 3 car garage or RV / boat house with an ADU on top for a place to live in the meantime and in-law suite it or rent it out eventually.
Although building materials are higher, assuming you have good credit, your mortgage rate guarantees damn near free money.
Buy the property and build a nice 3 car garage or RV / boat house with an ADU on top for a place to live in the meantime and in-law suite it or rent it out eventually.
Posted on 12/13/20 at 9:12 am to GAFF
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My dream property has come up for sale. It’s a piece of raw land out in the country. The wife and I have had a set of house plans that we’ve been saving up for. Here’s my dilemma. I have enough money to buy either the land or build the house. Not both. However, with my current mortgage, if I buy the land it’ll put me out of my comfort range with my budget. So here is my solution. Raw land loans have shorter terms and higher rates. But if I were to get a construction loan and build a 2 car garage with an above apartment (going to build the future house by the garage) I could get a traditional mortgage/construction loan. I could then live in the garage for a year while I save up enough money to build the house. The equity in the land/garage from me improving the land should also help me reach the needed amount faster. Does this sound doable? What financial pit falls am I missing? I don’t want the desire of the land to cloud my judgment.
I think it will be more difficult to get a construction loan when it’s time to build your dream house if you’ve already built the garage.
Definitely discuss this with your bank
Posted on 12/14/20 at 6:38 am to GAFF
It is possible to do a one time close where you buy the lot and close on a construction loan together at 90% LTV. Find the right product for you. Your route of 2 separate loans is possible also, 2 one to build main house would be a renovation loan. Have to make sure both separate structures are connected under 1 meter to fit in Fannie Mae guidelines but that should be easy enough. Other than that, if you have a large enough relationship with your bank, you can almost do whatever you want..
Posted on 12/14/20 at 8:42 am to Helmethead
Shop house is another option.
Posted on 7/5/23 at 8:37 am to GAFF
Go ahead, just know what your fallback position is, which reads like you would be forced to sell something if you got into a bind. It's real estate! They're not making any more. Best wishes!
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