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re: Finding jobs abroad in the Oil and Gas industry
Posted on 3/13/12 at 5:15 pm to Powerman
Posted on 3/13/12 at 5:15 pm to Powerman
Yeah the water was a little muddy. When you said you worked construction I was thinking houses, commercial etc. If you are already in the petro industry as a contractor it shouldn't be that difficult if the jobs are available. Saudi Aramaco is always hiring. It might not be your first choice but one thing about international: if you go to the place no one wants to go and succeed you can write your own ticket. If you fail, you can still write your own ticket because you will get major kudos for just showing up.
On the degree issue: suck it up, go back to school and finish in General Studies. With your credit hours it will probably take only a semester or two.
On the degree issue: suck it up, go back to school and finish in General Studies. With your credit hours it will probably take only a semester or two.
Posted on 3/14/12 at 9:26 am to jonboy
Thanks
I'm sure I'll have a degree one day even if it's in something easy just for the sake of having one
I'm thinking that might be a couple years down the road. I don't want to get into any sort of debt for school
I'm sure I'll have a degree one day even if it's in something easy just for the sake of having one
I'm thinking that might be a couple years down the road. I don't want to get into any sort of debt for school
Posted on 3/14/12 at 9:36 am to jonboy
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On the degree issue: suck it up, go back to school and finish in General Studies. With your credit hours it will probably take only a semester or two.
Why do people always say this? Yall do realize that GS degrees require you to get 3 minors, right?
Going from an EE curriculum to GS will take longer than a semester or two, regardless of the amount of hours.
Posted on 3/14/12 at 9:42 am to jonboy
Just curious what kind of entry level jobs would a person wanting to get started in the O&G industry need to be looking at(I have a Business Degree)?
Posted on 3/14/12 at 10:27 am to LNCHBOX
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Why do people always say this? Yall do realize that GS degrees require you to get 3 minors, right?
Well I would already have a minor in math and in electrical engineering
It would probably take 2 years full time if I had to guess.
Posted on 3/14/12 at 10:29 am to Ryno_Kill
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Just curious what kind of entry level jobs would a person wanting to get started in the O&G industry need to be looking at(I have a Business Degree)?
i'm curious about this as well, only i have a JD and am barred in LA.
Posted on 3/14/12 at 10:43 am to theOG
With a JD you need to look into Land.
Posted on 3/15/12 at 1:37 am to Powerman
Contact the Schlumberger office in Larose, LA. I think they may be hiring. You could be a fit in Wireline with your EE background. Also they love people who are willing to travel. They are always looking to send people on international assignments.
This post was edited on 3/15/12 at 1:39 am
Posted on 3/15/12 at 4:20 am to rickgrimes
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You could be a fit in Wireline with your EE background. Also they love people who are willing to travel. They are always looking to send people on international assignments.
This. With any type of EE experience, your best bet would be to hire with a service company doing electric line work, MWD, or something of the sort. I only know the drilling side of things because that's where I work. I've been offshore deepwater since '05 since I got out of school. Willingness to travel is a big plus because a lot of people aren't. Throw your resume up on rigzone.com and get on linkedin and hunt some O&G recruiters out there. There are tons of those on linked in. I get 2-3 emails a day about various jobs - some relevant some not.
Fact is though you will be required to go to the field for a few years so you can understand the tools. From there, you could likely end up as a coordinator in a role that sounds similar to what you are doing now.
Being offshore or in the field is definitely a lifestyle change. I work 28 on / 28 off. It's great having 6 months off a year to do whatever I want and you can't beat the money. That said, while I have a serious gf I was doing this when we met so she understands, but I also think it would be tough to rotate with kids, although some guys swear by it.
ALso, if you get enough field experience, and enjoy being offshore, it's not unheard of for experienced service hands to make a move to company man which is good. The rig I'm on now has a former mud engineer as one co man, former Baker Atlas wireline supv as another co man, but both are like 30+ years oilfield experience...
EDIT* One more thing, the oilfield is doing really well right now and may stay like this for a long time (hopefully) - but anyone that has been around for awhile and they will take you to make hay while the sun shines because at some point it will slow down. You can already see it coming with land as the price of natural gas drops.....
This post was edited on 3/15/12 at 4:23 am
Posted on 3/15/12 at 6:19 pm to HoustonsTiger
HoustonT
What do you do if you dont mind me asking?
What do you do if you dont mind me asking?
Posted on 3/15/12 at 9:46 pm to Powerman
my friend buck works off-shore somewhere in SE Asia and lives in the Phillipenes, he's baller blockin and livin'it up over there.
Posted on 3/16/12 at 3:12 am to GREENHEAD22
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What do you do if you dont mind me asking?
I work as a rotating drilling engineer (consultant) in the field for an independent energy company. This is actually my last hitch though. I'm switching to an even smaller company, will still work as a consultant, but will be headed back to the GoM and spending some time in the office. I'm gonna start workin 14/14/14 office/rig/days off which should be kinda cool. I've been rotating offshore since Jan '06, mostly international (Angola, EG, Israel) so I'm looking forward to being a little closer to home.
Posted on 3/16/12 at 12:38 pm to Powerman
I suggest you sit down with an advisor and let him review your transcript, have your boss write a letter detailing your work history. I was in your situation about ten years ago, and was surprised by how helpful they were for an unconventional student working full time.
Posted on 3/16/12 at 11:52 pm to rushing11
HoustonT
Are you a PETE grad? Drilling eng is exactly what I want to do but not sure if I am going to be able to get there. I am currently majoring in Industrial eng. Switched majors and wanted to do PETE but I would have started over as a freshman and was a junior when I switched. Have experience but mostly in production though. Hoping to land a directional job or something similar and work my way to drilling engineer. Know it will take take a while if even possible. Have any advice? Think it is even possible without a PETE?
Are you a PETE grad? Drilling eng is exactly what I want to do but not sure if I am going to be able to get there. I am currently majoring in Industrial eng. Switched majors and wanted to do PETE but I would have started over as a freshman and was a junior when I switched. Have experience but mostly in production though. Hoping to land a directional job or something similar and work my way to drilling engineer. Know it will take take a while if even possible. Have any advice? Think it is even possible without a PETE?
This post was edited on 3/16/12 at 11:53 pm
Posted on 3/17/12 at 7:36 am to GREENHEAD22
I am a petroleum grad - Jan 06.
You can definitely be a drilling engineer without being a PETE - granted that is probably the "best" degree to have if you want to be a drilling / completions engineer. That said, the majors higher all different engineering disciplines to fill them out. Mechanical, chemical are the first 2x that come to mind. I must say that I haven't come across to many industrial engineers but that's not to say they aren't out there. For sure though the super majors would be your best bet to "break out". There is nothing wrong working for majors, just not my preference. They normally have great compensation packages and will send you to as many schools as you can stomach.
I'm not sure if Fred Thurber is still there, he was a petroleum faculty member who did alot with trying to get students jobs etc. If he is, it may be worth dropping in as he could give you more advice of what you should do to increase your chances of getting into the industry. Also probably worth passing by career services and talking with some of those guys as they probably have some useful tips / advice.
As far as directional, that will be a bit tougher. All the older directional guys have some drilling experience. Alot of the younger guys (like myself) don't necessarily have that experience, but have several years experience in the field learning basic drilling principles. That said, with the way the industry it hurting for people right now service companies may be taking any engineers they can get.
How far along are you - are you a junior now? Would a swap to mechanical be possible? I always hated mechanical but that is arguably the most versatile degree in engineering you can have. Do you know that the drilling industry is what you want to do for a career? If so, I know it can seem frustrating to feel like you are taking a step back, but in the long run it may be worth it.
Another route you can look at is to go to a drilling contractor (Ensco, Diamond, Transocean - all offshore but I don't know too much about land) and get field experience that way. Your production experience will definitely help. Most of these contractors have a "fast track" program where they accelerate you up the ranks so you spend ~6 months in a position then move up to get lots of exposure really fast.
Not sure if any of that helped. I'm not gonna say you should switch majors, but if you know you want to be in drilling, a PETE degree is the best way to get there (and probably a much higher starting salary out of school). The only downside, is with a PETE degree you are locked into the industry, which hopefully won't be a bad thing, but you never know what can happen.
Anyone engineer I talk to that is just joining this industry (drilling/completions), I give them the following advice:
1 - Get as much field experience as you can. All the good engineers can relate the the field / operations guys because they have been there. The guys with no field experience can't - and it shows.
2 - Get in and stay in deepwater. We don't see the fluctuations in the market that land does, the dollar figured across the board are more, and the majority of deepwater guys are older which means they will be hanging it up soon.
You can definitely be a drilling engineer without being a PETE - granted that is probably the "best" degree to have if you want to be a drilling / completions engineer. That said, the majors higher all different engineering disciplines to fill them out. Mechanical, chemical are the first 2x that come to mind. I must say that I haven't come across to many industrial engineers but that's not to say they aren't out there. For sure though the super majors would be your best bet to "break out". There is nothing wrong working for majors, just not my preference. They normally have great compensation packages and will send you to as many schools as you can stomach.
I'm not sure if Fred Thurber is still there, he was a petroleum faculty member who did alot with trying to get students jobs etc. If he is, it may be worth dropping in as he could give you more advice of what you should do to increase your chances of getting into the industry. Also probably worth passing by career services and talking with some of those guys as they probably have some useful tips / advice.
As far as directional, that will be a bit tougher. All the older directional guys have some drilling experience. Alot of the younger guys (like myself) don't necessarily have that experience, but have several years experience in the field learning basic drilling principles. That said, with the way the industry it hurting for people right now service companies may be taking any engineers they can get.
How far along are you - are you a junior now? Would a swap to mechanical be possible? I always hated mechanical but that is arguably the most versatile degree in engineering you can have. Do you know that the drilling industry is what you want to do for a career? If so, I know it can seem frustrating to feel like you are taking a step back, but in the long run it may be worth it.
Another route you can look at is to go to a drilling contractor (Ensco, Diamond, Transocean - all offshore but I don't know too much about land) and get field experience that way. Your production experience will definitely help. Most of these contractors have a "fast track" program where they accelerate you up the ranks so you spend ~6 months in a position then move up to get lots of exposure really fast.
Not sure if any of that helped. I'm not gonna say you should switch majors, but if you know you want to be in drilling, a PETE degree is the best way to get there (and probably a much higher starting salary out of school). The only downside, is with a PETE degree you are locked into the industry, which hopefully won't be a bad thing, but you never know what can happen.
Anyone engineer I talk to that is just joining this industry (drilling/completions), I give them the following advice:
1 - Get as much field experience as you can. All the good engineers can relate the the field / operations guys because they have been there. The guys with no field experience can't - and it shows.
2 - Get in and stay in deepwater. We don't see the fluctuations in the market that land does, the dollar figured across the board are more, and the majority of deepwater guys are older which means they will be hanging it up soon.
Posted on 3/17/12 at 1:24 pm to Zach
HoustonT and Zach thanks for the info.
If I could switch and basically not have to start over I would. I really wanted to do PETE but cant afford another 4 years, that's passing everything the first time. I work offshore over the summers and winter breaks to put my self through school so makes summer school or intersession tough. Yes I am a junior right now and am very certain drilling is what I want. Yes production is more job security but it is redundant and boring almost. The fast pace and stress intensive style of drilling suits me a lot more and the fact that it is always different makes it much more interesting. Have heard before to try and get with the contractors to get some experience before, going to try and contact Rowan and some others this next week.
If I could switch and basically not have to start over I would. I really wanted to do PETE but cant afford another 4 years, that's passing everything the first time. I work offshore over the summers and winter breaks to put my self through school so makes summer school or intersession tough. Yes I am a junior right now and am very certain drilling is what I want. Yes production is more job security but it is redundant and boring almost. The fast pace and stress intensive style of drilling suits me a lot more and the fact that it is always different makes it much more interesting. Have heard before to try and get with the contractors to get some experience before, going to try and contact Rowan and some others this next week.
This post was edited on 3/17/12 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 3/17/12 at 10:37 pm to GREENHEAD22
Yeah I understand if you can't switch - it's a tough thing to do for a wide range of reasons. All you really need is a foot in the door, and once you get that you'll be set. In my opinion with already having offshore experience I would try and target the majors, ie Exxon, Chevron, etc. Be sure to tell them that you love to travel - that is a big plus in drilling.
Best of luck and if you need anything else I'll try and help as best I can.
Best of luck and if you need anything else I'll try and help as best I can.
Posted on 3/18/12 at 11:43 am to HoustonsTiger
Appreciate it big time, one last question. Seeing how I think its going to be pretty hard to go straight to a drilling eng what job would you recommend I target that would help lead to DE job? Only thing I can think of is directional driller which is diff attainable when I grad. Have a friend that has been doing that since he grad with Scientific, hopefully he can pull some strings.
Posted on 3/19/12 at 8:03 am to GREENHEAD22
If you could get on somewhere as a directional driller that would be a great start. You will pick up alot of valuable knowledge on how to drill a well. Just pay attention to all the other stuff outside of your immediate work scope when you have the time, running casing, cementing, etc. The moer you can learn the better.
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