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Finding it hard to invest with monthly budget

Posted on 12/3/24 at 5:10 pm
Posted by Redstickbaw
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Posted on 12/3/24 at 5:10 pm
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Posted by TyOconner
NOLA
Member since Nov 2009
11247 posts
Posted on 12/3/24 at 5:23 pm to
Simple equation. You can either decrease discretionary/entertainment spending, increase your earnings, or invest less. I have always liked the theories of “pay yourself first” and “invest til it hurts.” When you get paid, make your investments to meet your long term goals first. If you have a one time expense that month then you’re eating at home that month. You’ll be thankful later if you do it that way.

All that said, if you really do make a fairly good income then I’d be willing to bet you could decrease car note, house note, TV subscriptions, etc. These are never the things people want to hear but it comes down to either increasing revenue or decreasing expenses. Outside of employer matches and that sort of thing, there’s no magic bullet to replace being diligent and responsible.
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Posted by Redstickbaw
Member since Jul 2023
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Posted on 12/3/24 at 5:51 pm to
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Posted by TheJunction
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2014
1608 posts
Posted on 12/3/24 at 8:20 pm to
Sounds like you’re doing everything “right” - paid off vehicles, reasonable house note, but just having a bad run of luck. For me, personally, I’d pay it with cash if I could and wouldn’t finance unless I had too.

Just part of the rat race like most of us are! Props to you for still making sure you get your 15% with match. Would be really easy for you to stop doing that with to fund other things since money is tighter right now.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
29694 posts
Posted on 12/3/24 at 8:23 pm to
quote:

For me, personally, I’d pay it with cash if I could and wouldn’t finance unless I had too.


My mortgage is 3% and my truck note is 4.2%.

My high yield savings gets 4.1% and my brokerage averages well more than that YoY. I’ll finance stuff all day long as long as that holds true
Posted by TheJunction
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2014
1608 posts
Posted on 12/3/24 at 8:30 pm to
Should have prefaced to say assuming the loan is 5-6%+.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
70782 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 8:25 am to
Sounds like you just had a few large expenses this year. It happens to anyone over time. I will say did you "have" to buy your kid a vehicle? How much was that? If thats part of the reason you werent able to put a decent amount into savings this year those are the decisions you have to ask yourself if its worth making because its definitely not something you have to do.

Curious as to how much the vehicle was for the kid, how much you paid over insurance for a vehicle for yourself and the A/C unit. Income wouldnt hurt either to see if we can tell these expenses really hurt your savings rate this year.

Sounds like the mortgage is pretty low.
Posted by Redstickbaw
Member since Jul 2023
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Posted on 12/4/24 at 8:30 am to
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Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
11415 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 8:34 am to
So we put 15% to 401k and also get a match on that so we do save for retirement but it seems like after that life tends to consume the rest with unfortunate events. If I put away savings then it eventually is used up with life events listed above such as cars (basic cars which are used and around 20k), AC repairs, tires, etc
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You're doing fine.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
70782 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 8:38 am to
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Kids vehicle was 15k and I came out of pocket around 8k to buy myself another car since the old was totaled. My car was 20k. The a/c unit was around 6k. Income was roughly 180k



Sounds like buying the kid a car really hurt you here, especially one that expensive. Thats the one I would question since you said you werent able to save much this year but threw $15k of cash towards an unnecessary thing. Even if you wanted to help your kid out, what was wrong with $6k car maybe?

But I would also question where else your money is going if your mortgage is less than $1,500/mo and you're grossing $15k/mo which net is probably around $10k-$11k after tax/benefits? Even with those big expenses, yes it would cut into your savings rate but thats the equivalent of a out $2,400/mo ($29k/12mo) which seems like you still should have had money left over to save after paying for other expenses.

Still though I go back to the $15k car for the kid, thats $1,250/mo you could have saved along the way this year not buying that. Or if you got a cheaper $6k car it still would have been $750/mo in savings. That just seems to be what hurt you the most this year.
This post was edited on 12/4/24 at 8:39 am
Posted by Tadey
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2012
574 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 8:40 am to
You paid for all of these big hits this year, and you are still investing 15% for your retirement. You have nothing to worry about. These were large one time expenses that likely wont happen again next year. Keep contributing 15%, and living like you are, and you will have more money to invest in no time. You may be even able to make up for what you weren't able to this year.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
20030 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 8:57 am to
its called life. Investing is a luxury not a need. If you want more disposable budget, cut back the monthly expenses. Or, kids dont "need" cars.

Personally i'd warn about getting too caught up in saving. You have to enjoy life while you can. No point in having tons of money in retirement and not being physically able to enjoy it.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37499 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 8:58 am to
You can up your 401K contribution. You'd be surprised that it doesn't have that much impact on take home pay and is more money to reduce your AGI at tax time. I'm over 50 and max my 401K which reduces my taxable income by $31000 right off the top line.
This post was edited on 12/4/24 at 8:59 am
Posted by grsharky
Member since Dec 2019
232 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 7:12 am to
How much do you already have invested? If you have a nice nest egg already you may be able to throttle back a bit until you replenish your cash reserves. Also as was said in another post, enjoy some money now, who knows what you'll have to deal with when you're old and can't do the things you want. I need to tell myself that sometime!
Posted by tigerbacon
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2010
4169 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 8:35 am to
From take home pay....put ten % directly into a HYSA. Then pay bills. Create a budget stay in budget. In said budget have investing money budgeting. Set up auto withdrew for said investment account. Use saving for emergencies.
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
2249 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 9:02 am to
Years like this happen. You have not necessarily done anything wrong. It is generally the right thing to do by paying cash for those events.

It is the years that you don't have this many big expenses where you can prepare. The "pay your self first" mentality works in normal circumstances. Set up something to automatically put some money aside. Fund an emergency fund first to pay for things like this. Start with a small amount that you can leave there except for the big events like a car or HVAC replacement. Once this fund is established with a reasonable amount, add a 2nd automatic funding of investment money.

The key to getting these going is to start small so that you don't need the money on a normal basis. Be disciplined. If you go too large, you will find too many instances to need the money for "normal life". Rome was not built in a day.

None of this works if you don't " spend less than you make" while not in emergency mode. This usually means cutting some discretionary spending.
Posted by UpstairsComputer
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2017
1740 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 9:57 am to
You're doing fine. If you did something wrong it was not having a large enough emergency fund going into the year you were going to have to buy an extra car.

Focus on rebuilding your emergency account - plus anything you know is going to be a big hit to it in the next year or so - then you're ahead of 99% of people. Probably still top 50% of MT even with the cash crunch.
Posted by Motownsix
Boise
Member since Oct 2022
2644 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 11:33 am to
I find the biggest mistake people make is waiting for the time they have extra money to invest. I always tried to put money into investments regardless of my economic situation.
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