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Farm group says ag in full blown crisis

Posted on 4/28/25 at 6:45 am
Posted by bigjoe1
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Posted on 4/28/25 at 6:45 am
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The clock is ticking on trade deals that the U.S. will need to strike with many nations, most notably China, to avoid what Trump’s Treasury Secretary has described as an “unsustainable” tariffs war. But in the U.S. farming sector, the damage has already been done and the economic crisis already begun.

U.S. agriculture exporters say the global backlash to President Trump’s tariffs is punishing them, especially a decline in Chinese buying of U.S. farm products, leading to cancelled export orders and layoffs. Peter Friedmann, executive director of the Agriculture Transportation Coalition, a leading export trade group for farmers, tells CNBC the number of canceled purchases of U.S. agriculture should not be described as approaching a crisis. “It is a full-blown crisis already,” he said.
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Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 4/28/25 at 7:04 am to
Rural areas getting hit hard with the trade war, and the cut back of health services
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
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Posted on 4/28/25 at 7:12 am to
If we are not exporting our corn, wheat, rice, and other agricultural goods, wouldn’t that make them cheaper domestically?

Also, how much in subsidies do agricultural businesses depend on?
This post was edited on 4/28/25 at 7:15 am
Posted by bigjoe1
Member since Jan 2024
779 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 7:16 am to
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President Donald Trump is ready to bail out American farmers if commodity exports continue to fall, particularly involving pork and soybean sales to China, Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins said Sunday.

"First of all, the prayer is that that doesn't need to happen — but secondly, if it does, for the short term, just as in Trump 1, we are preparing for that," Rollins told CNN's "State of the Union."

During Trump's first term in office, the government spent tens of billions of dollars in farm subsidies amid a smaller trade war between the United States and China.
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Posted by bigjoe1
Member since Jan 2024
779 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 7:20 am to
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If we are not exporting our corn, wheat, rice, and other agricultural goods, wouldn’t that make them cheaper domestically?


Sure. But, farmers would lose a hell of a lot of money. If memory serves, I think in 2019 the Dept. of Agriculture had to subsidize farmers $12 billion dollars to make up for lost income from tariffs on top of all of the other subsidizes .
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/28/25 at 7:23 am to
That will go higher as we are setting records on soybean and corn production. The stronger dollar is making our exports less attractive and favorable weather helps out other countries like Brazil
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
47215 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 7:36 am to
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If we are not exporting our corn, wheat, rice, and other agricultural goods, wouldn’t that make them cheaper domestically?


Unlikely as they will likely dump the product on under developed countries to avoid saturating key markets and destroying what little profit they have.

Then they will configure to gross less, in the next cycle.

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Also, how much in subsidies do agricultural businesses depend on?


This is the type of situation where the govt generally bails them out as they grow less
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
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Posted on 4/28/25 at 7:38 am to
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The stronger dollar


The dollar just hit a 3 year low a week or so ago
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 4/28/25 at 7:40 am to
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Also, how much in subsidies do agricultural businesses depend on?


Trump's first round of tariffs in 2018-2019 saw AG subsidies quadruple. $11 billion to $44 billion.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 4/28/25 at 8:07 am to
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and the cut back of health services


?
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
47215 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 8:14 am to
With HHS cutting its budget by over 1/3rd a lot of that targets tax credits and subsidies which rural hospitals and health care centers rely on as they basically operate in the red without the fed gov.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 4/28/25 at 8:38 am to
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Sure. But, farmers would lose a hell of a lot of money. If memory serves, I think in 2019 the Dept. of Agriculture had to subsidize farmers $12 billion dollars to make up for lost income from tariffs on top of all of the other subsidizes .


.Gov spends 30 billion per day. Cut that back, and the subsidies are nothing.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34310 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 8:51 am to
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.Gov spends 30 billion per day. Cut that back, and the subsidies are nothing.



So you think paying farmers to grow nothing is a good use of taxpayer dollars? Agree to disagree on that one, buddy.
Posted by JLivermore
Wendover
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 4/28/25 at 9:01 am to
I'm certain there will be uncertainty.
Posted by TheWalrus
Land of the Hogs
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/28/25 at 9:29 am to
There’s not enough domestic demand to satisfy the supply.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 4/28/25 at 9:31 am to
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With HHS cutting its budget by over 1/3rd a lot of that targets tax credits and subsidies which rural hospitals and health care centers rely on as they basically operate in the red without the fed gov.
try that in a small town
Posted by CastleBravo
Rapid City, SD
Member since Sep 2013
451 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 9:50 am to
Good.

Draining our aquifers to grow corn/beans to ship to china is not sustainable.
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
2232 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 10:11 am to
try that in a small town
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You win the internet today!
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
2232 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 10:17 am to
The dollar Is not stronger these days. What you talking bout Willis?
Posted by SEC. 593
Chicago
Member since Aug 2012
4270 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 10:36 am to
The Farm Subsidies act as a tool to help manage inflation in the food sector by reducing volatility. Remove the subsidies and farmers will grow less and have to raise prices to be able to make a profit.

Now, one can argue overall if that policy is a good/bad thing and if the market would be better off without it, but that money is either coming out of your pocket as taxes or as a higher grocery bill.
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