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Escrow or annual payment of property tax/insurance

Posted on 5/29/19 at 9:24 pm
Posted by Tiger Attorney
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
19649 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 9:24 pm
I have always escrowed...does anyone just pay annually? Any pluses to it? Considering it with the new house.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80060 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 9:30 pm to
Minimal interest if you keep it in a savings account. Maybe get one 6 month CD out of it
Posted by achenator
Member since Oct 2014
2944 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 9:34 pm to
I pay them both as they are due. I always hated the escrow getting behind/ahead etc. Together they are a little less than $12k a year so I just put $1k a month aside.
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
9751 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 9:35 pm to
I've done both.

Benefit that you have use of the money for the year.
Drawback, it is a lump sum at end of year.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17930 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 9:45 pm to
Paying direct saved me a couple hundred per year.
Posted by WM88
West Monroe
Member since Aug 2004
1579 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 10:18 pm to
Always paid annually for property taxes. I paid the whole $200 per year in 1 lump sum.

I live in a shack compared to the rest of the board.
Posted by LSU1018
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
7215 posts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 7:39 am to
The lender may try to charge you a fee if you don’t want to escrow.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17930 posts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 7:47 am to
Also check if you can pay property taxes with a credit card. This was a nice incentive for me to pay my own property taxes directly.

I take a set amount from each paycheck and put it in high interest savings and then pay with my 2.5% cash back credit card.

I also now pay my home insurance with credit card and get cash rewards by doing it myself.

For me I found handling everything on my own made budget planning and adjustments much easier.
This post was edited on 5/30/19 at 7:49 am
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
18695 posts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 8:20 am to
Pay my own annually. When I had a mortgage and escrow, Hibernia screwed up one year and did not pay my insurance. They even lied to me on the phone and said they had sent the check. I talked to the insurer and found out I had no coverage on my house as of midnight the night before.

I immediately drove to the insurance company, paid the premium, then came back to write an arse-ripping letter to the lender and demanded they end escrow and let me handle insurance and taxes since I was more responsible than them. To my surprise, they said have at it.

Been doing it ever since. It's not a problem unless you don't budget for it to have cash on hand when the bills hit.
Posted by done dancing
South Louisiana
Member since Apr 2016
61 posts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 9:57 am to
When possible avoid escrow, pay out of pocket. Trick is to dump the amount equal to the escrow monthly to principal while paying out of pocket. Govt adds the credit card transaction fee to your taxes. Weigh that against points gained on your card. For me it didnt help. Every situation is individual though.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166028 posts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 2:43 pm to
paying escrow always has you prepared, its out of sight out of mind.
Posted by ShawSawTheMoor
China Grove, Brazoria Co. TX FM 521
Member since Apr 2019
333 posts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 8:06 pm to
I pay property taxes and insurance, in one annual sum for each when they come due, separately from the monthly mortgage payment.

It makes the monthly payment substantially smaller, thus freeing up about $100+ to add to principal on the mortgage balance each month, paying off the loan much faster.
Posted by sneakytiger
Member since Oct 2007
2471 posts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 10:35 pm to
Depending on when your property taxes fall due, you can time payments to get 2x the itemized deduction on your federal return every other year. The Trump tax changes limited the total property tax deduction to $10k so it's probably less effective, but still an option depending on your situation
Posted by anl4002
Member since Mar 2017
34 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 7:35 am to
I used to escrow payments but now pay it annually. It helps that my homeowner and flood insurances are due mid year and the property taxes are due at the end of the year. Some insurance companies allow you to charge it on your credit card. This is helpful if you churning credit cards or need extra points.
Posted by Tiger Attorney
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
19649 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 7:54 pm to
Can you explain how this is possible?
Posted by BlackenedOut
The Big Sleazy
Member since Feb 2011
5798 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 10:54 am to
What I suspect is this.

When you buy the house (assuming seller has paid yearly taxes) you will reimburse the seller the unused portion of the taxes he paid. That’s your first “tax payment” of 2019.

Then if your parish or county sends out tax notice at end of 2019 you could pay it direct before end of 2019 and there is your second tax payment. Once or twice I’ve been able to do this.

But as mentioned, with new deduction limit it could be less of a benefit.
Posted by sneakytiger
Member since Oct 2007
2471 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 2:33 pm to
In TX, property tax bills go out in December and are due by Jan 31 of the following year. So in a single calendar year I can pay both my prior and current year's taxes (2018 taxes in Jan 2019 and 2019 taxes in Dec 2019). So on my 2019 federal return I have 2x the deduction (keeping in mind I've shifted it from a other tax year). It's only effective for deferring a deduction out of a year with unusually high taxable income,say due to large bonus or capital gain, which would cause your itemized deductions to get phased out. And with Trump's $10k cap really makes this worthless unless you have other itemized deductions to get you out of the standard deduction.

Back to your OP - you can't do this if you escrow. The banks tend to pay early and certainly don't give a damn about your tax strategy.
This post was edited on 6/1/19 at 3:21 pm
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