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Crypto: Love it when protecting your users consists of pausing withdrawals

Posted on 11/10/22 at 7:43 pm
Posted by Street Hawk
Member since Nov 2014
3460 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 7:43 pm
While accepting but not necessarily recommending deposits.



At this point I'm writing off all my crypto holdings in Binance, Coinbase and Robinhood. Buffet and Munger were right about crypto all along. It's a fricking ponzi scheme. None of it is real.
This post was edited on 11/10/22 at 7:45 pm
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73571 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 7:45 pm to
What exactly happened with FTX?

Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42561 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 7:51 pm to
TL;DR. FTX/Binance had a beef. Binance started some rumors to reduce the value of FTX and then buy them.
This post was edited on 11/10/22 at 7:52 pm
Posted by Nephropidae
Brentwood
Member since Nov 2018
2386 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 7:53 pm to
Crypto getting severely devalued is a pretty clever way to get rid of liquidity in the market. Something that was nothing is now nothing. Poof.
Posted by mtcheral
BR
Member since Oct 2008
1936 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 7:58 pm to
quote:

. FTX/Binance had a beef. Binance started some rumors to reduce the value of FTX and then buy them.


Not quite. Ftx loaned users funds to Alameda for trading to try to keep them going after the Luna debacle and they lost the funds so now Ftx is insolvent. Binance found out about it and wanted to slowly sell their stake in FTT so they wouldn’t get screwed and it became public so everyone found out about what Sam/FTX was doing.
Posted by 21JumpStreet
Member since Jul 2012
14647 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:01 pm to
Everyone has been saying get off exchanges
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42561 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:06 pm to
Yeah, there was a ponzi-ish type scheme going on. But just trying to quick summarize for people not in crypto.
Posted by down time
space
Member since Oct 2013
1914 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:09 pm to
If someone can't use a ledger and a dex they don't need to be trading coins. true defi/web3 is years away.
This post was edited on 11/10/22 at 8:11 pm
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
10398 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:15 pm to
Get your money off centralized exchanges. I wouldn't even trust Coinbase at this point.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35313 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 9:41 pm to
quote:

Get your money off centralized exchanges. I wouldn't even trust Coinbase at this point.



Yep. I literally transfer everything to my ledger as soon as I get the email saying my funds are cleared to withdraw.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80772 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 9:43 pm to
After all the shite that happened with centralized exchanges in the summer, you still have your shite on a centralized exchange?
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
5513 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 11:05 pm to
The problem is that not your keys, not your coins is not convenient for the average person plus it doesn't exactly inspire faith in crypto as a whole.

Just another reason why unfettered speculation is at odds with the adoption of crypto. It's something public blockchains are going to have to sort out before crypto has any chance of being the engine that runs the digital world.
Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
12977 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 12:10 am to
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 5:42 am to
quote:

The problem is that not your keys, not your coins is not convenient for the average person plus it doesn't exactly inspire faith in crypto as a whole.


well, one could argue the imperative then is to show the average person how easy using cold storage is, because ceding ownership of your keys is the antithesis of what things like Bitcoin was created for
Posted by Fox McCloud
Member since Oct 2020
3525 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 6:36 am to
100% proof that crypto is a scam and not decentralized
Posted by TrouserTrout
Member since Nov 2017
6425 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 7:01 am to
BTT running like crazy
Posted by Brummy
Central, LA
Member since Oct 2009
4501 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 8:23 am to
quote:

Binance found out about it and wanted to slowly sell their stake in FTT so they wouldn’t get screwed and it became public so everyone found out about what Sam/FTX was doing.

It became public because their CEO tweeted this on Sunday. Either he's a moron (which I doubt) or they were using the opportunity to create a run on FTX and crush a competitor, which is what happened.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422407 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 9:48 pm to
quote:

because ceding ownership of your keys is the antithesis of what things like Bitcoin was created for

Once BTC/crypto became a speculative security, what BTC was created for went out the window
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7692 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 10:48 pm to
Reading through this thread, it is amazing just how little I understand about this whole part of finance/payment systems. Confirms my first reaction that all this coin stuff is a giant scam. Glad to not own any of it.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
82018 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 11:48 pm to
And now FTX wallets being drained. This is some shite

They claim they got hacked. LOL
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