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re: Credit Card Rewards and Points Discussion

Posted on 4/6/25 at 10:08 pm to
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/6/25 at 10:08 pm to
I have the basic free Sapphire. The Chase rep changed that card to the Freedom Unlimited and told me to wait 10 business days then apply for the CSP and it will clear the system of me not having any sapphire card
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10727 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:07 am to
I currently have the CSR, so if I call and cancel I need to wait 10 days before applying for CSP?

It’s been more than 4 years for me, so I’m good there.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82193 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:23 pm to
That is correct, call Chase to confirm though
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
18309 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 7:44 am to
quote:

I currently have the CSR, so if I call and cancel I need to wait 10 days before applying for CSP


If you have the Reserve you do not need to cancel, you can get the Preferred as long as you are under 5 new cards in the last 24 months. You can have both cards. The new sign up bonus states you can’t get it if you have another sapphire card?

I’m waiting on the referral links so my wife can get the bonus. I have 260k+ UR points now so it will give us 360k when I combine hers to mine. Then I’ll just have to think of a big trip to spend it on

This post was edited on 4/8/25 at 7:51 am
Posted by Civildawg
Member since May 2012
10473 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 7:54 am to
I could be wrong on this but from what I've read, you cannot have an open chase sapphire card to get the bonus so I think he would have to cancel the CSR
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
18309 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:02 am to
I thought you would still need an active sapphire card to keep your reward points. If you downgrade you would lose your points. I doubt they would roll them over to a new account.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40827 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:03 am to
You cannot be holding a CSR and get the CSP bonus.

You also want to avoid canceling the CSR, as data points suggest you'll have to wait 30 days to apply for the CSP.

Product change the CSR to a freedom (it's nice having multiple freedoms anyway), then you can likely apply in a week, though some people are only needing to wait a few days.
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
18309 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:29 am to
How do people avoid losing their banked ultimate reward points by not having an active sapphire? They would have to transfer them to a new Freedom if they didn’t have one?

I can’t do it. I already have CSP that I’m going to downgrade and a CSR, but going to refer my wife
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40827 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 9:17 am to
quote:

How do people avoid losing their banked ultimate reward points by not having an active sapphire? They would have to transfer them to a new Freedom if they didn’t have one?

I can’t do it. I already have CSP that I’m going to downgrade and a CSR, but going to refer my wife


1) I assume anyone this far along in the game already has a Freedom (discontinued), Freedom Flex, or Freedom Unlimited.

2) All these Chase cards earn their "cash back" as Ultimate Rewards, so downgrading the CSP to Freedom wouldn't lose any points. The points just can't be used for anything but cash back until you couple a premium card with it again, which happens when you get your new CSP.
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
18309 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 10:14 am to
I see, I’ve been out of the game for a while, just accumulating points through spend and quarterly bonuses … I hope someone doesn’t lose their points if they are new to this
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10727 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:24 am to
I was planning to transfer to my business ink.

I also have the freedom as my standby card already…

So do you guys think I would need to cancel the CSR and then wait 30 days?

This shite used to much simple when it was 2 years… 4 years certainly gets you settled in. But I guess that was the point.

Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40827 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 6:28 pm to
Ya definitely move the points to those cards before doing anything.

quote:


So do you guys think I would need to cancel the CSR and then wait 30 days?


The data points suggest you should downgrade the card to a freedom instead of canceling. The clock is shorter that way vs 30 days for closing.

I would not hold my breath that this deal lasts a whole month.

quote:

This shite used to much simple when it was 2 years… 4 years certainly gets you settled in. But I guess that was the point.


I have an old 5x Ink Bold I keep as my premium transfer card. I've already gotten like my fourth CSP/CSR (usually get CSP because bonus is higher) a year ago for 80k so my clock isn't anywhere near four years. I put a reminder on my Google calendar and then it surprises me one day to remind me to apply and do it again.
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10727 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:52 pm to
You think I can have 2 freedom cards though?
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40827 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 9:01 pm to
quote:

You think I can have 2 freedom cards though?


Which Freedom do you have? If you have the original Chase Freedom you can downgrade to Flex. If you have Flex you can downgrade to original Freedom.

Of course, you won't be able to hit the Flex bonus if you go that route, so hopefully you can downgrade to original Freedom and avoid any sign up bonus loss since that Freedom is no longer available for sign ups.

I have CFU, FF, and Original Freedom but I did it the old fashioned way through regular signups.

BTW you have nothing to lose. If they say no, continue on with your plan.
This post was edited on 4/8/25 at 9:09 pm
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10727 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 7:13 pm to
It’s the freedom unlimited.

So sounds like I should make the CSR the freedom flex.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40827 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 7:35 pm to
Ya Unlimited and Flex/Original Freedom are totally different animals.

I'd try to go for the original Freedom if you can, that way you can still get the 20k Flex bonus later.

There's really no reason not to have a Freedom card. No fee and 5x categories are a good boost.

Between me and my wife I have 4 Freedoms, so that's 30k a quarter. I usually max two quarters easily. The third I could if I wanted. There's one quarter I can't max.

Ones I can are Groceries, Amazon, and PayPal (my utilities accept PayPal so I just prepay them)
This post was edited on 4/9/25 at 7:37 pm
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10727 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 2:21 pm to
Ended up doing the flex, it’s a solid card to have with their quarterly bonus. Rep. I spoke to said he recommended to wait until the current cycle closes, which will be in a couple weeks. So, fingers crossed it lasts until.

Thanks for the help!
Posted by CajunTiger92
Member since Dec 2007
2868 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 6:15 am to
I switched my Freedom card to 1.5% for all purchases. That extra 0.5% on all purchases more than makes up what I could make maxing out on the quarterlies. I have a flex that I only use to capture the quarterly extra 4%.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40827 posts
Posted on 5/3/25 at 10:12 pm to
I would have kept all 3.

Multiple freedoms if you have the spend is great. Could have gotten a sign up bonus on the CFU (probably like 20k) that you didn't get because you product switched.

Gotta do the whole squeeze to get the juice!
This post was edited on 5/3/25 at 10:14 pm
Posted by CajunTiger92
Member since Dec 2007
2868 posts
Posted on 5/4/25 at 7:02 pm to
I didn’t give up a freedom card. It’s been several years now but what I seem to remember before freedom unlimited and flex there was just freedom and you had a choice with going for the quarterly or the 1.5%.
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