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re: Credit Card Rewards and Points Discussion

Posted on 5/26/23 at 10:25 pm to
Posted by Odinson
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Posted on 5/26/23 at 10:25 pm to
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Once kids start coming along and I double my need things will change.


Yeah, get ready. My daughter is 10 and even younger son expects business class on all international flights now. SMH.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 5/26/23 at 11:14 pm to
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Sure all these CC offers are getting better but all of the sweet spots are spontaneously getting devalued also making things pretty par.


Ya, I've justified their end a little bit with the fact we now actually have monetary inflation. The points per dollar can't get too far out of whack to be fair to them. However, the minute it all goes revenue based on redemption, shite will suck.

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Laptops, smart home devices, sound bars and my wife might kill me if another arcade1up shows up lol.


saw some of that. Wife will definitely wonder why I need an Xbox so trying to avoid that...a little bit. Unfortunately I'm sort of teched out around here but I should get something than nothing now that I've dived in this pool.

Would have been great to pool the Xbox GCs to fully cover the over $200 items MS has but what can you do.
This post was edited on 5/26/23 at 11:19 pm
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 5/26/23 at 11:17 pm to
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Yeah, get ready. My daughter is 10 and even younger son expects business class on all international flights now. SMH.


My oldest is still pretty young, so he probably doesn't notice how nice the hotel suites are

We haven't taken them international yet but it's coming.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 5/27/23 at 6:57 am to
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I’m running out of things to utilize dell credit. Laptops, smart home devices, sound bars and my wife might kill me if another arcade1up shows up lol.




I didn't even realize there was a 200/2 = 400 dell credit associated.

What have you been able to get with that credit? Is it anything on Dell's website?

shite, didn't have an issue paying 695 for a second platinum card with the 200k points, but throw in most of the fee in a credit, plus the 35% airline points redeem and its a no brainer.
Posted by Odinson
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Posted on 5/27/23 at 8:35 am to
Credit can be used for anything on Dell’s site.

Dell credits can easily be “triple dipped” for a total of $600 credit. Getting the plat card in June or November and then canceling the card in 13 months before having to pay another annual fee.

Pair the Dell purchase with Rakutan (linked to Amex for MR pts instead) Usually a monthly promotion of 10-15% “ cash back “ through Rakutan for Dell purchases.

Dell allows up to 3 different form/split payments for purchase. I usually have multiple Plat cards at any given time so I can use up to $600 Dell credit for a single purchase.
Posted by Tigerfan19
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 6/1/23 at 1:17 pm to
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We use Chase Sapphire Reserve


Need a new card for my new job. Last job we used the company card, now I can use my own.

This card will mostly be used for hotel travel, gas, some food and groceries.

Been bouncing between Chase Sapphire or Freedom and the Capital One SavorOne Cash rewards.

Anyone have experience with either or recs.
Much appreciated
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 11/16/23 at 2:28 pm to
Alright, I've delayed and need to pull the trigger.
I need the best hotel and dining card options.

Been using my Amex Plat and have earned 120k Points in Airfare, so that card makes sense there.

The problem is I've earned 60k points on everything else so far this year (mainly hotels and dining for work).

End of year, so looking to scoop up 1 or 2 cards to maximize that going into next year. Thoughts?

Saw Marriott Bonvoy Boundless, but I'm confused on how points are earned since I already have Titanium status with Marriott.

For dining, was thinking Amex Gold, but looks like they cut the 100 airline credit they used to have, so the 250 fee isn't as quick to offset.

Posted by METAL
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 11/16/23 at 2:31 pm to
Chase Sapphire Reserve for travel and dining.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39577 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 5:49 pm to
He already has an Amex Platinum which would be largely duplicative on the benefits side and CSR is worse on airfare. However, it would give him 3x on other travel that Platinum doesn't. In this scenario, the Sapphire Preferred may be better to the Reserve, as it avoids a lot of the bloat and fees, and forgoes 1 point on dining and travel but otherwise fills in that gap.

Also, CSR 3x dining is essentially worthless because the no fee Freedom Unlimited gives you 3x dining (not to mention Amex Gold is 4x here), and you also get 1.5 everywhere else. I don't have a Reserve for many of these reasons. That card has lost its luster and place within the Chase lineup and against competitors.

As for Amex Gold, for me the Uber credit takes $120 off easy. I also get $10 a month off GrubHub easy enough doing $10 pickup orders once a month. While not a "travel" benefit, 4x groceries is nothing to scoff at.

I don't have it, but another to consider is Capital One Venture X. Some diversification, 2x everywhere, and offsetting the annual fee in total should be relatively easy.

For hotels, with your spend you maybe interested in having Hyatt Personal and Business. If not enough nights from stays, you could spend your way to Globalist.
This post was edited on 11/16/23 at 5:58 pm
Posted by Breesus
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 11/16/23 at 5:56 pm to
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I don't have it, but another to consider is Capital One Venture X


I have the Venture X card and it is fantastic.

I often look at switching to AMEX but can’t find a compelling reason yet
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39577 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 6:03 pm to
Ya, I keep thinking about it for all unbonused spend, but I have an Amex Blue Business that gives 2x MR everywhere up to $50k/100,000 points a year.

This year I messed around by paying my estimated taxes to get Hyatt Globalist, so I'm not sure if a 3rd ecosystem makes sense for me.

I burn my Chase points almost exclusively via Hyatt for nice hotels/suites, and after burning my AA miles for Japan, I'm still sitting on a million MR so maybe I should add on somewhere else.
This post was edited on 11/16/23 at 6:05 pm
Posted by AlaskaAg
Member since Feb 2022
836 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 7:36 pm to
Platinum is great but I wish they partnered with Alaska Airlines and or United.
Posted by Breesus
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Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 7:55 pm to
So what are the benefits of an AMEX Gold card compared to Venture X? I use my rewards points mostly for booking traveling and the occasional purchase erased for large gifts. I also like the capital one shopping perks.

For reference I put around 100K a year on my card and pay it off before it’s due every month.

I’m thinking about adding the Amex gold to use for all grocery and non travel purchases and putting all travel on my Venture X card. 4x points on groceries and restaurants feels like I’m throwing money away by not having an AMEX Gold

Venture X benefits I know:

10x points on hotels/flight
5x points on rental cars
2x on everything else
$300 annual travel credit
10,000 annual free bonus miles
This post was edited on 11/16/23 at 8:37 pm
Posted by Drizzt
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Member since Aug 2013
12871 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 11:22 pm to
I just got a Garmin smartwatch on Dell to use my $200 credit (Platinum). I like it. Will probably use the other $200 on noise cancelling headphones in January when they are on sale. They have some pretty nice backpacks as well.
This post was edited on 11/16/23 at 11:25 pm
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39577 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 11:44 pm to
Amex Gold isn't really a benefits cards since it's only $250 fee a year.

$120 is offset by Uber
Another $120 by GrubHub and a few other avenues.

So for $10 if you max those credits, you get a good MR earner with the 4x dining and groceries, and 3x on airfare.

It makes sense to have if you want MRs via spend.

However, do note that Amex has recently added language where one can get the Amex Gold bonus and then earn a Platinum bonus if one wanted, but one could not do that in the opposite direction (Plat then Gold), so if you're trying to accumulate sign up bonuses it may even behoove you to start even lower with Amex Green, for example, though I don't recall off my head if Green has had its language updated.

Anyway, not trying to sell it to anyone. In my view, one should get cards/points with a goal or redemption in mind. For example, I need 300k MR to get to Africa/Bali/whatever in business class in two years. Otherwise, many people would be better off with cash back. But for me, since it's basically $10 it's a no-brainer.
This post was edited on 11/16/23 at 11:47 pm
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80141 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 5:12 am to
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10x points on hotels/flight 5x points on rental cars


But that’s only if you book and pay through them, correct?
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39577 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 1:49 pm to
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But that’s only if you book and pay through them, correct?


Correct.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80141 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 7:02 am to
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Correct.


90% of my hotels are are work. So can't pay in advance, need a receipt from hotel, etc...

Do I get all of that if I go through them? Also, do I get my same points from Marriott for my stay?

So 10 times cc points from CapOne and then my Titanium points from Marriott?
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39577 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 8:03 am to
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80141 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 8:20 am to
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However, if you book hotels in a major loyalty program — like Marriott Bonvoy or Hilton Honors — through Capital One Travel, you likely won't receive points. You also won't enjoy any elite status perks.


That’s a no for me dawg… not sure why any regular traveler would do this. Maybe something in missing
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