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CPI numbers should be reported tomorrow w/ potential rate cut implications..
Posted on 8/11/25 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 8/11/25 at 12:46 pm
Any predictions?
Posted on 8/11/25 at 1:11 pm to Clint Torres
No predictions, but I'd like the data to all pull in the same direction so "Too Late" can be obviously right or wrong.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 1:22 pm to Clint Torres
Well; in the past 48 hours I visited my local Costco where 80/20 ground beef was $7lb. Over in the steaks; whole loin choice grade ribeyes were $19lb. Boneless skinless chicken breasts were marked down to $2.99lb from $3.49 just a month ago. I filled up for $3.20 a gallon at my local 7-Eleven which is higher than it was on Inauguration Day. I took my truck in for service at my local Toyota dealer. While it was being worked on, I cruised around the sales floor. I struck up a conversation with a sales person and asked him about the impact of tariffs. He said Toyota is doing everything in their power to keep the MSRP prices stable; but, went on to say you are damn sure gonna feel it in the service and parts department.
Obviously; my window to the world is my own, but it sure doesn’t feel like inflation is coming down to me.
Obviously; my window to the world is my own, but it sure doesn’t feel like inflation is coming down to me.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 1:32 pm to wiltznucs
Inflation isn’t. That ship has sailed. The rate of inflation is slowing though.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 2:06 pm to Clint Torres
Consensus seems to be 2.8% but, both MS and GS are saying 3% on the CPI
Posted on 8/11/25 at 2:43 pm to Clint Torres
3.2%
If it comes in too low, it's going to be a popular opinion that the numbers are fudged (BLS calculates CPI), which could throw the bond markets into some chaos. Damn shame we can't see a good or bad number and have faith that it's true but I guess that's what happens when a leader throws a tantrum and fires the messenger.
If it comes in too low, it's going to be a popular opinion that the numbers are fudged (BLS calculates CPI), which could throw the bond markets into some chaos. Damn shame we can't see a good or bad number and have faith that it's true but I guess that's what happens when a leader throws a tantrum and fires the messenger.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 3:03 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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but I guess that's what happens when a leader throws a tantrum and fires the messenger.
Oh, frick off. Initial BLS job numbers had been atrociously off under her leadership, with the average adjustment being ~2x more than the average of her predecessors.
Sell your "I'm okay with failure as long as it's done on behalf of my political party" bullshite elsewhere because no one is buying it here.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 4:37 pm to mmmmmbeeer
2.8 on headline and 3.0 on core
Its nearly impossible for progress with the replacement numbers being low and the Shelter weight
Lodging away crom home has been bad tho. If numbers dont rise much that means inflation is beyond low
You dont have a problem with overstating the jobs numbers by millions?
That dumbarse was give all sorts of ideas to correct under Bidens admin. Your TDS is too strong tho
Its nearly impossible for progress with the replacement numbers being low and the Shelter weight
Lodging away crom home has been bad tho. If numbers dont rise much that means inflation is beyond low
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what happens when a leader throws a tantrum and fires the messenger.
You dont have a problem with overstating the jobs numbers by millions?
That dumbarse was give all sorts of ideas to correct under Bidens admin. Your TDS is too strong tho
Posted on 8/11/25 at 4:38 pm to Bard
It’s not partisan and there are a lot of reasons previous months’ data is updated. It’s been like that forever as some are slower to return surveys than others.
And it’s not just me saying this…I’m seeing it in all flavors of financial news sites. There’s real concern about the validity of US government data now, ESPECIALLY if we magically move to 1.9% cpi in the morning or show enormous job gains on 9/5.
And it’s not just me saying this…I’m seeing it in all flavors of financial news sites. There’s real concern about the validity of US government data now, ESPECIALLY if we magically move to 1.9% cpi in the morning or show enormous job gains on 9/5.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 4:40 pm to SDVTiger
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You dont have a problem with overstating the jobs numbers by millions?
This is why Trump says this shite because he knows yall will lap it up without doing even 4 minutes of reading. Seriously, take 4 mins from your day to read instead of assuming everything is some political plot.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 5:19 pm to Bard
Kevin Hasset was on Fox. News Sunday morning saying the numbers weren’t wrong. They just said the formula needed to be updated to take into account the new world we live in like gig economy
Posted on 8/11/25 at 6:03 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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If it comes in too low, it's going to be a popular opinion that the numbers are fudged (BLS calculates CPI)
The numbers have been fudged for decades.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 2:49 am to mmmmmbeeer
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There’s real concern about the validity of US government data now
Now? Just now? Why only now? All of the numbers before now were fine?
Posted on 8/12/25 at 5:57 am to mmmmmbeeer
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And it’s not just me saying this…I’m seeing it in all flavors of financial news sites.
And those same sites were shaking their heads with every BLS revision, dismayed at how the initial numbers could be off so badly. For the last 9 months of 2024, jobs were overstated by 800k, meaning that the period went from +600k jobs to -200k jobs.
That level of inaccuracy is unacceptable, and those same sites have said the same thing, but for some reason when OMB makes BLS leadership accountable then there's pearl-clutching.
If you can't see the ridiculousness of bitching about something then bitching about when it's addressed then you aren't being cleverly observant, you're part of the partisanship problem which causes these problems to linger in the first place.
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There’s real concern about the validity of US government data now, ESPECIALLY if we magically move to 1.9% cpi in the morning or show enormous job gains on 9/5.
Those are the same types who swore up and down Trump won 2016 because he colluded with Russia. The numbers reported this month will still have been gathered and organized under McEntarfer so there's no actual point in all of this faux concern other than just another avenue for pushing out "dRUMPf da debil!111" rhetoric.
Be better.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 6:13 am to Bard
I’m not sure why these government reports are a big deal. Most large investment companies have their own economic teams who do labor analysis and other financial factors including inflation measures independent of government reports.
These government reports help media with headlines. Not sure what else.
These government reports help media with headlines. Not sure what else.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 6:14 am to mmmmmbeeer
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This is why Trump says this shite because he knows yall will lap it up without doing even 4 minutes of reading. Seriously, take 4 mins from your day to read instead of assuming everything is some political plot.
They revised the report by 1mil last year. What did that have to with Trump
They just revised the last 2mnths by 295k jobs. It seems you are the one who needs to learn to read.
Your TDS is off the charts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 6:26 am to kaaj24
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I’m not sure why these government reports are a big deal.
Bc the Fed ostensibly relies on these numbers
Posted on 8/12/25 at 6:31 am to Clint Torres
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Any predictions?
I keep hearing that the market has this, jobs and rate cuts "built in" already, so as long as it isn't off the by like 1%, shouldn't the markets not have a crazy reaction?
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:31 am to Clint Torres
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:31 am to Clint Torres
I'm more concerned with what PPI numbers look like in a couple of days. I'm a producer, and my prices have gone up 10-20% in the past month. I know I'm just one little part of one little part of the manufacturing world. All of my suppliers have gone up, but I mainly deal with glass and aluminum, which are commodities. I'm curious how other industries are doing.
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