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re: Biden’s plan to wipe student debt

Posted on 11/12/20 at 4:48 pm to
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 4:48 pm to
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Having someone else get something of value for free, when you had to pay for it?


Yes

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Getting fricked for being responsible shouldn't occur. Now, I also don't think we should attempt to screw over people who are attempting to better their life, but eliminating student loan interest is a better compromise than completely wiping student loan debt clean.


Tons of people file bankruptcy every year, I have always paid my debts. I ain’t mad at them though.
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 6:35 pm to
Total erasure of student debt is a terrible idea but something needs to be worked out. Payment options, interest relief etc.

There are macroeconomic benefits of not drowning people in debt until they’re 40 years old.

A good starting place is asking why going to taco tech for a lib arts degree costs so much.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
21057 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 6:44 pm to
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something needs to be worked out.


Maximum cap of minimum needed for community college in federal loans. And have it tied to performance renewed each year.

No one needs unlimited no credit required 6 figure loans for an undergrad degree in basketweeving.

If you can find a private bank to give that to you, great, but the federal government shouldn’t.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26028 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 6:58 pm to
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A good starting place is asking why going to taco tech for a lib arts degree costs so much


It costs that much because student loans will pay for it.

Add restrictions to qualifications and amounts for student loans and it will be laughable how much the market corrects for the cost of tuition.

People do stupid shite when they are spending other people's money. Then they bitch when they realize that they voluntarily entered into the debt relationship.
This post was edited on 11/12/20 at 6:59 pm
Posted by nugget
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 7:52 pm to
This is debt that is literally owed to you (assuming you actually pay taxes) and the government is forcing you to not be able to collect. It’s not only a poor financial move for the country, it’s immoral to force taxpayers to pay out loans in which they’re not allowed to collect.

The stupidity and poor work ethic of the American people will be the downfall.
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
14532 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 8:11 pm to
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This is an odd form of envy.


It’s more about accountability and not want to pay for others that are not accountable. You keep on trying to make people feel bad for living lives of integrity and wanting others to do that same. It’s a novel idea for the socialist.
Posted by bod312
Member since Jul 2015
846 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 8:13 pm to
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A good starting place is asking why going to taco tech for a lib arts degree costs so much.


Supply vs demand
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36280 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 8:22 pm to
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Tons of people file bankruptcy every year, I have always paid my debts. I ain’t mad at them though.


Do they typically file bankruptcy while in debt to the government?
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13867 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 8:26 pm to
It’s not a supply vs demand issue, except for the fact that the demand is artificially inflated by the availability of these loans. It’s the fact that our government is loaning six figures to 18 year old kids for college (loans backed by the federal government and not bankruptable).

Would Lamborghini loan $120,000 to an 18 year old kid? Would a bank loan that amount to an 18 year old for a rental house?
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
40155 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 8:29 pm to
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Do they typically file bankruptcy while in debt to the government?



As a BK attorney. Yes. Yes they do.
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 9:42 pm to
I didn’t think federally backed student loans were bankruptable.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 10:11 pm to
They aren't
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
14532 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 10:26 pm to
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As a BK attorney. Yes. Yes they do.


Is the federal debt wiped out by the bankruptcy?
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
40155 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 10:33 pm to
In some cases it can be.

Generally not in a ch 13, but you can in ch 7 and 11
Posted by Statsattack
Il
Member since Feb 2013
3917 posts
Posted on 11/13/20 at 1:05 am to
Take a vaccine get out of debt
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
19305 posts
Posted on 11/13/20 at 9:23 am to
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They have to cut something else in order to spend more.

Not in today's political climate.
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4292 posts
Posted on 11/13/20 at 9:32 am to
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Not in today's political climate.


Not just today. Deficit spending has been the norm throughout most of U.S. history.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/13/20 at 3:05 pm to
Elections have consequences
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26028 posts
Posted on 11/13/20 at 10:40 pm to
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Not in today's political climate


Congress is always happy to raise the debt ceiling and always happy to increase spending.

But contrary to opinion on here, the government has a budget and project overruns have to come from other parts of the budget.

Trump's wall pulled from emergency relief spending.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
38841 posts
Posted on 11/14/20 at 12:59 am to
Biden’s student debt plan is irrelevant because he isn’t going to be president
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