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re: You can NOT have it both ways
Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:57 am to heartbreakTiger
Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:57 am to heartbreakTiger
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failed chances to score and then giving them great field position at the end of the half killed us. It wasn't all les though since jc and drew both cost us points.
Freezing up in the RZ, penalties and missed FG's
Mett was hot, should have kept riding him.
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Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:58 am to heartbreakTiger
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Credit to les miles for the good game plan and letting mett keep us in it but also part of the blame for losing has to go to questionable calls
there was one bad call....the fake FG.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:58 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Mett was hot, should have kept riding him.
The call could have went either way.
Before the game, who would you rather put the game in the hands of? Defense or Mett?
Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:59 am to Prominentwon
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I choose to believe that our program re-established itself last night as one of the elite programs in the country. LSU is alive and well. Our future is very bright and last night validated that we can stand toe-to-toe with anyone in the country, including mighty Alabama and their coaching staff that is allegedly leap years ahead of our staff. You can't say our coaching is so inferior to Bama unless you believe our talent is so superior Bama and you simply can't say that our talent is so superior that we can lose 4 starters on offense and 3 starters on defense in a season and still have talent that far exceeds our foe, which unfortunately is the envy of many a LSU fan. Others choose to believe that blaming Miles, Stud or Chavis will somehow ease the pain that we share as a collective fan base, but we all seem to forget how much greater the pain is for the coaching staff and players. I'm sure a fan base that turns on a program that left it on the field last night only serves to intensify that pain. The players and staff turned it loose last night and left it on the field but Bama proved to be fortunate and credit the other elite program for finding a way to win a game they lost everywhere but the final scoreboard.
Also, the best thing about freshmen and sophomores is when they become juniors and seniors. No need to look over your shoulder Bama. That's Tiger breath you feel and we are right on your big elephant arse.
Geaux Tigers!
This! I agree miles failed at a couple points, but he had a superior game plan going in, and the players executed pretty damn well. I am not totally satisfied with the job he has done, but there is no better person, just waiting for us to call..... It would be retarded to fire him without knowing we could hire a capable replacement.
Geaux TIGERS! Let's ride this wave, to the crushing defeat of our remaining opponents, and straight into next year.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:59 am to Prominentwon
I meant staff wise as far as tweaks on the offensive side of the ball. I am glad to see a big wr though because that will be deadly if mett has now turned the corner.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 10:01 am to Prominentwon
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You can NOT have it both ways
You cannot say that our players aren't good enough this year then look at the effort and performance they put in on Saturday.
Our coaching staff was much better but they still made mistakes. That last drive by LSU was pathetic... as if they never practice a 2 minute drill. All while Alabama's was flawless.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 10:01 am to Prominentwon
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The call could have went either way.
Before the game, who would you rather put the game in the hands of? Defense or Mett?
In the 4th quarter it was obvious Bama didn't have an answer for the passing game.
You can't leave Bama an opening. Everyone watching that game knew, even though they were struggling offensively...that they were going to make a run on that final drive.
LSU had plenty of chances to put this one away, and didn't. For a variety of reasons, they didn't and one, not all.. of them was the play calling deep in Bama territory.
It doesn't mean it was a poorly coached game. It means it could have been done much differently and some decisions ended up costing.
This post was edited on 11/5/12 at 10:03 am
Posted on 11/5/12 at 10:02 am to Choctaw
fake fg, 54 yard fg was a bad call since missing it gives bama a spark. we should have just punted it and pinned them and then you watch nick saban kneel it and we go in to the half 7-3.
I actually liked the onside kick call, that was clearly a calculated risk and called off something we had seen before.
4th 1 wasn't a bad call to go for it but the play called was horrible. Either keep mett in and force bama to not stack the middle or put warecat in the shotgun and ford on his side. bama stacks like they did and we pitch it to ford who turns the corner on them just like in ttown and we probably score and ice the game.
I can't really fault him for the 3rd down run late with bama having no timeouts but i would have liked to see a throw to ice the game.
I actually liked the onside kick call, that was clearly a calculated risk and called off something we had seen before.
4th 1 wasn't a bad call to go for it but the play called was horrible. Either keep mett in and force bama to not stack the middle or put warecat in the shotgun and ford on his side. bama stacks like they did and we pitch it to ford who turns the corner on them just like in ttown and we probably score and ice the game.
I can't really fault him for the 3rd down run late with bama having no timeouts but i would have liked to see a throw to ice the game.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 10:02 am to Prominentwon
I get bashed for this all the time, but..
The only difference between Miles and Saban today is the fact that Saban made good on a Mulligan that Miles never would have gotten.
That's it.
Other than that, they are dead even.
Yeah, bash away.
The only difference between Miles and Saban today is the fact that Saban made good on a Mulligan that Miles never would have gotten.
That's it.
Other than that, they are dead even.
Yeah, bash away.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 10:02 am to heartbreakTiger
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I meant staff wise as far as tweaks on the offensive side of the ball.
If they call a game like they did this week, and they have been, the QB and WR's just haven't been making the plays for the numbers to show the offense is somewhat decent.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 10:02 am to theunknownknight
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On the flip side, Miles can't be a genius on one hand if risky plays go his way but not a bafoon if they don't.
its stupid either way to judge calls with 20/20 hindsight. He realy only made 2 "risky" calls that didn't work. The fake FG and the onside kick. Faking a FG on 4th-12 is a bad call, the onside kick is taking a chance, which is something many have complained Miles won't do.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 10:03 am to Prominentwon
if the fake FG works and we wind up scoring on the drive .. if drew hits the 54 yard FG .. and Ware gets the first down and we score .. everyone on here would hail les as a genius and be calling him LESTICLES while they are grabbing their crotches and gyrating their hips in their purple bike coaches shorts in front of a mirror .. but they didn't work .. so he's an "idiot" for trying it ?? i also notice a lot of the very screen names bitching about it are the very people that posted all last week that we didn't have a chance against Bama .. so why be pissed now ?
Posted on 11/5/12 at 10:04 am to Prominentwon
before the game defense, during the game though mett was on fire so id take mett.
i wouldn't have been against kicking on that 4th an 1 and going up by 6.
i wouldn't have been against kicking on that 4th an 1 and going up by 6.
This post was edited on 11/5/12 at 10:06 am
Posted on 11/5/12 at 10:04 am to H-Town Tiger
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the onside kick is taking a chance, which is something many have complained Miles won't do.
Hated it, felt it was unnecessary and LSU already had all the momentum. Luckily, Bama didn't capitalize.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 10:04 am to mmcgrath
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You cannot say that our players aren't good enough this year then look at the effort and performance they put in on Saturday.
Be real, selfish guy.
How many guys has this team lost since the beginning of the year?
LSU is playing with players that were considered 2nd and 3rd stringers at the beginning of the year. Most of them freshmen and sophomores.
If the same thing happened to a team like, let's say, Florida, and they lost half their starters, would you expect them to be in the National Championship game?
Hell no, you wouldn't.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 10:04 am to silverthorn
AMEN!
Except for 58 min, when you play not to lose you usually lose.
Except for 58 min, when you play not to lose you usually lose.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 10:05 am to Stingray
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hat troubles me is that bama is consistently better than us the last few years, and might be winning their third NC in four years.
WOW. couldn't be more wrong.
WE beat bama last year, remember? Consistently better would be losing to them every year since 08. Just isn't happening that way.
As far as the 3rd NC in 4 years, well they have great players and a great coaching staff, but so do we.
We just made a few bad decisions and it cost us. The ball also just didn't bounce our way (onside kick).
consistently better? 4-3 against us since 07. Please.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 10:05 am to TigahRag
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i also notice a lot of the very screen names bitching about it are the very people that posted all last week that we didn't have a chance against Bama .. so why be pissed now ?
Same story, different week with these people.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 10:06 am to heartbreakTiger
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fake fg, 54 yard fg was a bad call since missing it gives bama a spark. we should have just punted it and pinned them and then you watch nick saban kneel it and we go in to the half 7-3.
i'll give you the long FG...but if he doesn't slip who knows.
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4th 1 wasn't a bad call to go for it but the play called was horrible. Either keep mett in and force bama to not stack the middle or put warecat in the shotgun and ford on his side. bama stacks like they did and we pitch it to ford who turns the corner on them just like in ttown and we probably score and ice the game.
agree with all of this
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I can't really fault him for the 3rd down run late with bama having no timeouts but i would have liked to see a throw to ice the game.
this was a 50/50 call IMO. Incomplete and the clock stops....but if you make it the game is over. I think Les relied on the defense since they had completely shutdown bama in the 4th. Unfortunately...Chavis went prevent. For the life of me i will never understand the prevent defense.
This post was edited on 11/5/12 at 10:07 am
Posted on 11/5/12 at 10:06 am to RogerTheShrubber
The onside kick works if the ball doesn't take a bad bounce and hits Hairston.
That's bad luck. Not a bad call.
That's bad luck. Not a bad call.
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