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re: With Utah out is the coveted 1 spot really that important?

Posted on 12/7/19 at 5:38 am to
Posted by FlaFlash
Member since Dec 2019
234 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 5:38 am to
Don't be stupid. The lsu d played great against a&m last week, I was impressed with aranda. That said, arandas scheme and results have been highly inconsistent this year, given the talent and experience.
Posted by HTF4U
Livonia
Member since Apr 2019
2619 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 7:07 am to
OU/Baylor or Clemson?

You tell me
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
7302 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 7:09 am to
You 100% want OSU to play Clemson first.
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12382 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 7:13 am to
quote:

t's less important I would agree, but I think I would take OU over Clemson. I think Clemson's linemen are superior to OU.




I would prefer Clemson. OU has a running threat at quarterback in Hurts. I think we match up better with Clemson.
Posted by 2 Jugs
Saint Amant
Member since Feb 2018
2299 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 7:31 am to
quote:

You 100% want OSU to play Clemson first.


It was on here before.

#1 seed plays OSU or Clemson only once in the title game.

#2 seed has to play both of them.
Posted by FlaFlash
Member since Dec 2019
234 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 7:33 am to
100% disagree. I'd prefer OU. Not near the team as Clemson.
Posted by Hot Carl
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62040 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 7:41 am to
quote:

You 100% want OSU to play Clemson first


Without question. That said, if we stay at 2, I’m very happy OSU will have to play OU (assuming they win) and Lincoln Riley with a month to prepare than fricking Utah. Thank God they lost and were exposed. It would have basically been a semi-final bye for #1.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 12/7/19 at 7:43 am to
Oh, btw, I just overheard on Sportscenter ( not an analyst, just an anchor reading some percentages), but they said 2-loss Georgia still has a better chance of making it than Baylor should they beat OU today. I find that kind of hard to believe, but maybe.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 7:45 am to
I may be the only one, but as bad as OUs defense is, I thing they are a worse matchup for LSU than clemson.

Hurts is the kind of QB that gives this LSU defense fits and I could see LSU being in a shootout vs OU and it’s nit impossible to lose that kind of game.

Clemson is more traditional and that is an easier matchup for our defense.
Posted by The
Central, O-H-I-O
Member since Dec 2019
242 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 7:46 am to
I think the reason the #1 spot was coveted was to avoid Clemson, not to avoid Utah. So I don't think the Utah loss affects that at all personally.
Posted by FlaFlash
Member since Dec 2019
234 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 7:56 am to
I agree. These guys aren't even looking at ou's results this year. They have been very fortunate in several games against lesser competition.

Those comparing ou to Clemson are clueless. Clemson has been playing great the last half of the season, defending champs, 30+ win streak, much better defense than OU, better running back, better qb, and know how to win BIG games.
Posted by The
Central, O-H-I-O
Member since Dec 2019
242 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 7:58 am to
100% agree. OU will put up points on Ohio State or LSU. BUT I 100000% trust either of our defenses to get multiple stops while OU isn't able to get stops and pull away and win by 20+.

It doesn't matter if it is Ohio State or LSU vs. OU, I see a final of something like 56-31.
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
20558 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 8:06 am to
quote:

You 100% want OSU to play Clemson first.



Yes and play OU/Baylor in Atlanta
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
14705 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 8:10 am to
Utah had about as much business being #5 as tOSU has at being #1. Looked like they belonged in the former Division II ranks
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78026 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 8:12 am to
OU is more tested than Clemson. Now watch for OSU vs Clemson.
Posted by grape nutz
sesame street
Member since Mar 2006
3705 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 8:13 am to
Clemson is 11 points better than Oklahoma. Big difference.
This post was edited on 12/7/19 at 8:24 am
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
14464 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 8:27 am to
Clemson would skull drag Baylor or OU.

The 1 seed is glorified bye week and the 2 seed is essentially another national title game. It matters.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
42398 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 8:33 am to
quote:

1 Alabama
2 Georgia
3 LSU
4 Oklahoma
5 Ohio State
6 Florida
7 Auburn
8 Texas A&M
9 Texas

10 Clemson



LSU has already beaten 5 of these teams this season and will have likely beaten 8 of them if they win the Natty undefeated.

Add in the rest of the top 25 and LSU has 3 more wins. But those three plus USCe have to be the most underperforming SEC teams in this top 25 list. But I guess you could make the case that they do have to play their SEC games against 4 teams in the top 25 of the list

quote:

11 Penn State
12 Michigan
13 Oregon
14 Notre Dame
15 Florida State
16 USC
17 Tennessee
18 Washington
19 South Carolina
20 Nebraska
21 Stanford
22 Mississippi State
23 Miami-FL
24 Ole Miss
25 Arkansas




So consider that every team in the SEC west has a 4 year recruiting average in the top 25 and LSU's permanent SEC East opponent is in the top 10.
Here is the breakdown top 10 in ()
SECW - 7 (4)
SECE - 4 (2)
SEC Total - 11 (6)

Big Ten - 4 (1)
ACC - 3 (1)
PAC 12 - 4 (0)
Big 12 - 2 (2)
Ind - 1 (0)

We can argue who plays the better teams week in and week out but there is no doubt that SEC teams, west teams in particular, line up against better talent week to week.
Posted by The
Central, O-H-I-O
Member since Dec 2019
242 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 8:35 am to
Yeah, preseason polls are meaningless.
Posted by profwilson
Member since Jul 2004
923 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 8:45 am to
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Yeah, preseason polls are meaningless.


That's not a pre-season poll, that's a ranking of recruiting averages over the last four years. I think he's trying to demonstrate the relative levels of raw talent that teams are bringing to the table. It's a useful comparison to a degree, but obviously limited. I don't think anyone would rather play Utah than Miami, for example.
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