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re: Will Wade's Hearing Date

Posted on 2/24/23 at 11:33 am to
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
9526 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 11:33 am to
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How many games did Wade win this year, or last year? None. No one wants to hire him. He couldn't get hired to coach the Diesel Driving Academy basketball team.


Two less conference games than MM.

You really are a dumbass.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79382 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 11:34 am to
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1. It was the ex-GF of a FORMER PLAYER who was out of eligibility. It is not against NCAA rules to provide a benefit to someone that is not a potential recruit or current player. What NCAA rule did he break by paying the blackmail threat of someone who used to date a player that no longer has eligibility. It's not a violation.


It is against the rules to bribe someone not to reveal potential violations.

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2. The bank account allegations. The allegation is that payment was made "TO SOMEONE BELIEVED TO BE CONNECTED TO A RECRUIT." Unless that "someone" cooperates and confirms this, yes, that is absolutely anonymous sourced information.


You don’t know what anonymous source means.

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If they had properly sourced information to back up the bank account allegation, he would have been hit with a show cause.


You keep saying this like it’s official he hasn’t been yet.

Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
9526 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 11:36 am to
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You don’t know what anonymous source means.


I know how its defined in the NCAA bylaws...

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It is against the rules to bribe someone not to reveal potential violations.


Did the GF ever confirm that to be the case?

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Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
31960 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 11:36 am to
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could there be a universe in which LSU hires Wade back

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but the question would be whether Woodward would

There's a cognitive dissonance between these two statements. Any arse knows there's no way that Woodward would rehire Wade, even if he's determined to be free of all wrongdoing.
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
9526 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 11:38 am to
What is your explanation going to be if he is not hit with a show cause? You keep claiming that I don't know what anonymous sourced information is, how will you explain that one?
Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
7729 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 11:40 am to
Someone in this thread has an awkward emotional tie to Will Wade.
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
9526 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 11:43 am to
Yeah I'm pissed he was fired. Especially in light of what everyone involved knew was going to ultimately happen.

But I've explained the process and what would like happen, literally since this first broke in 2019. Now, it's actually playing out the way I predicted, it is funny watching people tell me I'm still wrong.
Posted by DhanTigers212
Member since Dec 2014
10467 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 11:47 am to
I don’t give a frick what anyone says. If Wade goes to Ole Miss that would be a gut punch to this fan base and would also leave a stain on Woodward’s legacy here.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79382 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 11:54 am to
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I know how its defined in the NCAA bylaws...


If you did you would have said it.

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Did the GF ever confirm that to be the case?


It’s in the texts.
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
9526 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 12:00 pm to
I'll help you out a little, you seem to need it.

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19.7.6.5 Information from Confidential Sources. In all resolution methods, the parties, including the enforcement staff, shall only rely on information that can be attributed to individuals who are willing to be identified. Such confidential sources shall not be identified to the hearing panel, the institution or an involved individual.


So if the GF and the "someone" connected to a player don't want to be identified or participate, then they really don't have much.

Again, if the NCAA could have supported these allegations, he would get a show cause. If he doesn't get hit with a show cause, you can go ahead and admit I was correct.
This post was edited on 2/24/23 at 12:01 pm
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
26002 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 12:18 pm to
The real winner in this deal is LSU.

Wade was a weak coach (good recruiter, albeit not an honest one). He needed to go. His failure to hide his chicanery got him removed from coaching (hopefully, for a long time). He's gone from LSU and won't ever be back. This is a win for LSU.

Only his sycophantic "idiot savant" fan base still moans his demise.

ETA: 1. Whether his dismissal was just doesn't matter at this point. 2. I have no animosity towards Wade. It is his fawning "I hope he drops trou" fan base that is so annoying.
This post was edited on 2/24/23 at 12:21 pm
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
14975 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 12:22 pm to
elllsssssuuuu was right all along, as I suspected.

IF WW does NOT get a show clause from the NCAA, SW destroyed our MBB program for NO GOOD REASON. That would make me sucker than I already am since WW got fired.
Posted by PNG Futbol
Member since Aug 2022
618 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 12:25 pm to
Wade will be running circles around McMoribund, just like he did Johnny Jones.
Posted by Tom Bronco
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2011
2909 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 12:37 pm to
The paying out of the wife's bank account was for the former girlfriend of one of his former player's when he was coaching at VCU. It had NOTHING to do with LSU or any of it's players. If you are going after Wade, at least be precise in what you are saying.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79382 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 12:43 pm to
If the GF called and said “will Wade pays players this is a worried citizen”

That would be an anonymous source

Texts messages to and from Will Wade’s phone discussing him being black mailed aren’t information. They’re documents.

If you think they can’t use those, you’re wrong. If you think they can’t use bank statements you’re wrong.

Also while the Gf’s name was redacted from what we’ve seen, everyone is named in the allegations.
This post was edited on 2/24/23 at 12:44 pm
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
9526 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 12:45 pm to
Then why no show cause?

They can use the bank account, but they cannot connect that payment to a player (thus a violation). Who is gong to confirm that the recipient of the funds was indeed connected to a recruit. You’re missing a step on the process.
This post was edited on 2/24/23 at 12:48 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290710 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 12:45 pm to
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But I've explained the process and what would like happen, literally since this first broke in 2019


Lol
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
9526 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 12:46 pm to
Hey Lester, where have I been wrong?
Posted by ForeverLSU5
Member since Mar 2019
2244 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 12:48 pm to
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That poster is clearly someone close to Wade. Look at his past posts. Put the pieces together and you can probably figure out who it is... it's not very hard.

Yes, Wade would know if he has been cleared.


I appreciate the backing here but I can promise you I am not Jordy haha
Posted by Tom Bronco
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2011
2909 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 12:48 pm to
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(good recruiter, albeit not an honest one)
There are no recruiters in college basketball who are both good and honest. This has been a well established fact for almost as long as CB has existed. Wade's players loved and respected him well beyond any money he got them. Most of them still communicate with him even now. Cam Thomas and he talk all the time.
Apparently Will didn't make many friends in the coaching and press fraternity as they dogged him like a dog with fleas for almost his entire stay at LSU. Maybe his real crime was outplaying the old, big dogs at their own game of subterfuge.
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