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re: Will Wade's Hearing Date
Posted on 2/24/23 at 10:34 am to Bottom9
Posted on 2/24/23 at 10:34 am to Bottom9
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Woodward was tired of Wade behind the scenes because he demanded success on and off the court. He demanded a need basketball arena and facility. He demanded more administrative support and quite frankly Woodward just got tired of it which makes this even more depressing.
But yet Mulkey is pushing for the same things and Woodward is fine with it. The first thing she did when she got here was told him you’re redoing all the coaches offices. Got done in a matter of months.
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Posted on 2/24/23 at 10:50 am to nicholastiger
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Wade agreed to his firing and will be back in the game but likely at a lower tier school initially before another Power 5 comes calling.
Can it be us? Can we go calling? Please.
Posted on 2/24/23 at 10:53 am to Bottom9
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Woodward was tired of Wade behind the scenes because he demanded success on and off the court. He demanded a new basketball arena and facility. He demanded more administrative support and quite frankly Woodward just got tired of it which makes this even more depressing.
He then hired a WBB to make less money for the university while demanding the same things.
This anti-Wade Woody grudge didn’t exist before the NOA came out.
For a Wade level coach, Woody stuck with him way longer.
“BuT wHaT aBoUt KaNsAs AnD sElf?”
Wade isn’t ducking Bill Self Doofus.
He isn’t as good and he has 5x the Allegation against him.
Posted on 2/24/23 at 11:02 am to SammyTiger
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He then hired a WBB to make less money for the university while demanding the same things. This anti-Wade Woody grudge didn’t exist before the NOA came out. For a Wade level coach, Woody stuck with him way longer. “BuT wHaT aBoUt KaNsAs AnD sElf?” Wade isn’t ducking Bill Self Doofus. He isn’t as good and he has 5x the Allegation against him.
Scott Woodward had Wade’s back and was not intimidated as long as it was “he said, she said.”
But then Wade had to frick all that up by leaving a paper trail. Then Woodward had no choice but to jettison him.
Scott Woodward is worth 100 times more to LSU athletics than Will Wade ever was or ever will be.
With what Woodward has done for LSU athletics since he’s been here, if he wants to take ten years to rebuild MBB, that’s fine with me.
I don’t give a shite. Wade fricked it all up in the first place. It’s not Woodward’s mess. Woodward is cleaning up Wade’s mess.
Posted on 2/24/23 at 11:06 am to timlan2057
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As much as Vitale and Forde have made this a national issue, the media would have latched onto any NCAA hearing clearing Wade and blown up the internet. No way this would ever stay “top secret.” And being offered SEC jobs and THAT remain top secret?
Damn, you Wade cultists are dumb.
Somebody has to make it public, dumbass. The NCAA is not a government agency, it is a private organization. There two ways NCAA letters/decisions become public. One, the NCAA releases publicly - they aren't going to do that here if Wade is not getting a show cause. Two, they send the decision to a public school that is subject to state public records acts, and the media requests that information.
Any "hearing" would also not be public.
This is not about being a Wade "cultists" it is about having a basic understanding on how this works.
I can assure you, Ole Miss would not even been considering him if he couldn't provide something to show a positive disposition of the investigation.
This post was edited on 2/24/23 at 11:08 am
Posted on 2/24/23 at 11:08 am to Bottom9
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At the end of the day, Woodward got what he wanted, a boring coach who is fine with the status quo and won't rock the boat. He got his guy. Unfortunately for him, his guy fricking sucks and has exposed us to more of how much Woodward and the administration do not give a frick about basketball. How an AD neglects a program that is a huge potential money maker should piss all of us off. LSU basketball has crazy potential and we were just starting to even think about some of our big dreams coming true (Conference Titles, Conference Tournament Titles, Consistent Tournament Appearances, Multiple Wins in the Tournament, Revitalized fan support and a packed PMAC)
I can't believe I'm going to do it, but I'll defend Woodward here. I don't think he simply wanted a "boring guy" without any regard for winning whatsoever. Hell, he spent a shite load of money on a WBB coach that will be a negative financial ROI no matter how good they are. I think he wants to win. But Woodward is not a guy that really digs deep in a search. He looks to hire the biggest name. LSU wasn't getting a major-conf. big name HC last season. That's foolish. But one could make the argument McMahon was the biggest "name" among mid-major coaches last season. He had one of the best mid-major teams last year.
Unfortunately, hiring a "big name" form the mid-major ranks requires more than just surface level vetting. For every Nate Oats (or Will Wade if you prefer) there are many Tony Barbees, Richard Pitinos, Stan Heaths, Steve Prhoms, Kermit Davis's that flame out at major conf. jobs.
My concern when McMahon was hired was that he was simply a product of a great Murray St program, not that the MSU program was a product of him. After year 1 those concerns seem much more valid. It is not a sin to hire a mid-major HC. Most guys get to the major conferences from the mid-major ranks. The sin is holding on to a guy too long when it become clear he isn't going to get you to where you want to go.
Posted on 2/24/23 at 11:12 am to Alt26
I think that is the problem here as well.
it is easy to hire Mulkey,
it is easy to hire for LSU football and Baseball.
It has been proven hard to hire For LSU men's basketball, It takes a certain person to win here, something Woody probably didn't consider going the extra mile on.
it is easy to hire Mulkey,
it is easy to hire for LSU football and Baseball.
It has been proven hard to hire For LSU men's basketball, It takes a certain person to win here, something Woody probably didn't consider going the extra mile on.
Posted on 2/24/23 at 11:13 am to timlan2057
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Scott Woodward had Wade’s back and was not intimidated as long as it was “he said, she said.”
But then Wade had to frick all that up by leaving a paper trail. Then Woodward had no choice but to jettison him.
Scott Woodward is worth 100 times more to LSU athletics than Will Wade ever was or ever will be.
With what Woodward has done for LSU athletics since he’s been here, if he wants to take ten years to rebuild MBB, that’s fine with me.
I don’t give a shite. Wade fricked it all up in the first place. It’s not Woodward’s mess. Woodward is cleaning up Wade’s mess.
That's BS, he never had Wade's back. Ask anybody around the athletic department. Scott was begging for a reason to get rid of him, and the moment he could fire him...he did.
No, the NOA is not a "paper trial." The NOA was allegations that it does not appear the NCAA was able to support. If the NCAA supported its allegations against Wade before the IARP, he would have in fact been hit with a multi-year show cause. Why is this such a difficult concept for people to grasp, the NOA is a series of allegations the NCAA is making. It still had to be supported by evidence that was usable under the NCAA bylaws. The NCAA knew it couldn't do this, so they made the NOA said as bad as possible to put pressure on LSU to fire Wade.
Anybody that has an ounce of understanding as to what is required to prove the allegations under NCAA bylaws before the IARP knew from day 1 those allegations could not be supported.
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With what Woodward has done for LSU athletics since he’s been here, if he wants to take ten years to rebuild MBB, that’s fine with me.
Then please stop commenting. No athletic program should take this long to rebuild and if that is acceptable to you then are more interested in worshipping Woodward than seeing LSU succeed. You are part of the problem, not the solution.
Posted on 2/24/23 at 11:15 am to BilltheTiger
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Don't tell me every other major program wasn't doing it.
The mantra of the Wadeophile.
He got caught. He's a loser. He needed to go and good riddance.
Posted on 2/24/23 at 11:15 am to ellessuuuu
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Somebody has to make it public, dumbass.
So let’s see, “somebody has to make it public” is why the sports media doesn’t know, but you’re swallowing the “The meeting has already been held!” and “Wade has been cleared!” from a jack leg on a message board. How did HE find out?
Do you even listen to yourself?
You have been among the biggest and dumbest shitposters on this board for like, forever, but you’re outdoing yourself here.
Posted on 2/24/23 at 11:19 am to chinhoyang
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The mantra of the Wadeophile.
He got caught. He's a loser. He needed to go and good riddance.
Man, it sucks to be you. You've been beating the "he got caught" drum for 5 years. Looks like no show cause, which means he in fact did not get caught...
Posted on 2/24/23 at 11:22 am to ellessuuuu
I’ll focus on the allegation involving the GF.
It references Text Messages to and from Will Wade’s phone and bank statements from His wife’s account.
That’s not anonymous sources. So you think the NCAA doesn’t have this evidence?
It references Text Messages to and from Will Wade’s phone and bank statements from His wife’s account.
That’s not anonymous sources. So you think the NCAA doesn’t have this evidence?
Posted on 2/24/23 at 11:23 am to ellessuuuu
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Man, it sucks to be you. You've been beating the "he got caught" drum for 5 years. Looks like no show cause, which means he in fact did not get caught..
It is great. He got fired and he isn't working as a coach.
Posted on 2/24/23 at 11:23 am to timlan2057
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So let’s see, “somebody has to make it public” is why the sports media doesn’t know, but you’re swallowing the “The meeting has already been held!” and “Wade has been cleared!” from a jack leg on a message board. How did HE find out?
Do you even listen to yourself?
You have been among the biggest and dumbest shitposters on this board for like, forever, but you’re outdoing yourself here.
That poster is clearly someone close to Wade. Look at his past posts. Put the pieces together and you can probably figure out who it is... it's not very hard.
Yes, Wade would know if he has been cleared.
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You have been among the biggest and dumbest shitposters on this board for like, forever, but you’re outdoing yourself here.
Please tell me what I've been wrong about? I've said since day 1, the NCAA cannot support its allegations against Wade. Going back to the Dawkins trial. The NCAA needed the Wade tape to be introduced into evidence in order for it to be in the public domain and usable against Wade. That never happened. If Wade does in fact avoid a show cause - which it seems pretty clear if his name is being tossed around for an SEC job than he will - then I was correct. The NCAA made some "strong arse" allegations, but at the end of the day couldn't support them under their own bylaws before an independent review.
I'll ask again, what have I said during this process that was not correct.
Hell, you can't even figure out how NCAA information is released.
Posted on 2/24/23 at 11:24 am to chinhoyang
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It is great. He got fired and he isn't working as a coach.
And we returned to the days of your favorite HC, dead last in the league. Congrats.
Posted on 2/24/23 at 11:27 am to SammyTiger
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I’ll focus on the allegation involving the GF. It references Text Messages to and from Will Wade’s phone and bank statements from His wife’s account. That’s not anonymous sources. So you think the NCAA doesn’t have this evidence?
Yeah, amazing how said dumbass wants folks to think the extent of the “paper trail” is the NOA, but runs from this like a scared rabbit.
Posted on 2/24/23 at 11:27 am to chinhoyang
Johnny Jones couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag. That is what Chin o wang is upset about!
Posted on 2/24/23 at 11:29 am to SammyTiger
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I’ll focus on the allegation involving the GF.
It references Text Messages to and from Will Wade’s phone and bank statements from His wife’s account.
That’s not anonymous sources. So you think the NCAA doesn’t have this evidence?
Reading comprehension is important here. Let's look at the allegations:
1. It was the ex-GF of a FORMER PLAYER who was out of eligibility. It is not against NCAA rules to provide a benefit to someone that is not a potential recruit or current player. What NCAA rule did he break by paying the blackmail threat of someone who used to date a player that no longer has eligibility. It's not a violation.
2. The bank account allegations. The allegation is that payment was made "TO SOMEONE BELIEVED TO BE CONNECTED TO A RECRUIT." Unless that "someone" cooperates and confirms this, yes, that is absolutely anonymous sourced information.
If they had properly sourced information to back up the bank account allegation, he would have been hit with a show cause.
If he doesn't get hit with a show cause, then how can you even argue whether the NCAA properly supported its allegations.
This post was edited on 2/24/23 at 11:31 am
Posted on 2/24/23 at 11:31 am to PNG Futbol
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Johnny Jones couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag. That is what Chin o wang is upset about!
Coach Jones is gainfully employed as a head coach.
How many games did Wade win this year, or last year? None. No one wants to hire him. He couldn't get hired to coach the Diesel Driving Academy basketball team.
Dick Vitale was right - Wade needed to go.
Posted on 2/24/23 at 11:32 am to timlan2057
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Yeah, amazing how said dumbass wants folks to think the extent of the “paper trail” is the NOA, but runs from this like a scared rabbit.
Didn't run from anybody. Provided the same explanation I've provided for the last year.
What is your explanation if he doesn't get hit with a show cause? How do you explain that?
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