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re: Will Wade to meet LSU sometime tomorrow (Wednesday) Updated Thursday, 4/11
Posted on 4/10/19 at 1:58 pm to JohnnyU
Posted on 4/10/19 at 1:58 pm to JohnnyU
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Not in an employment setting. I was an administrator or department director for over 30 years and had many folks in my offense to discuss alleged or suspected bad or criminal behavior. None of those folks had a lawyer. Some confessed, some lied.
I would say being dragged into a federal case sort of muddies that logic just a tad bit.
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Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:01 pm to UpToPar
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Always a smart move.
Not always, but usually. I have employed attorneys many times; not once have they ever gotten anything for me that I couldn't have gotten without them.
Lawyers are overrated, you especially don't need them when your path is clear: "I'm clean, I can't comment further." If you need an attorney to figure that out, you probably need someone to tie your shoes for you as well.
Besides, didn't Wade get a new attorney that's trying to get him back in a meeting? Looks like the first one gave him a bum steer.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:02 pm to tigerpimpbot
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Did you have the NCAA present at any of those meetings?
On different occasions I may have had a LEO, regulatory rep, internal security or risk management in those meetings.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:05 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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How could he possible have risked his millions more by doing that than not showing up at all?
I don't know because I'm not a lawyer only a basketball coach which is why I would want my legal counsel there. Especially while speaking to a board of supervisors riddled with lawyers
Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:05 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Lawyers are overrated, you especially don't need them when your path is clear: "I'm clean, I can't comment further." If you need an attorney to figure that out, you probably need someone to tie your shoes for you as well.
Would love to see you represent yourself at a trial
Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:05 pm to atltiger6487
Wanna know how I know you’ve never had a position other than hourly?
Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:05 pm to atltiger6487
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o if you're 100% innocent you don't tell your boss you're innocent, you lawyer up instead?
There is 8 pages of people arguing mostly about whether or not Will Wade is guilty or innocent.
Does anyone on this site really believe that Wade didn't buy recruits? I for one believe that he paid recruits but you know what? I don't care.
This whole situation isn't about whether or not Wade did it, it's about can the NCAA prove it.
You don't agree to go to a meeting with the NCAA present before knowing exactly what is on those tapes because you don't know exactly what you need to deny. Worse than dodging the meeting is proclaiming you didn't do something and then showing up to court and having them play a tape that has you saying the opposite.
Like it has been said, every major program buys players so I couldn't care less that Will Wade is also playing that game.
Also the NCAA looked into the Smart situation and didn't find anything so I think it's pretty safe to say that Wade covered his tracks.
People are pissed because the admins tried to throw Wade to wolves instead of backing there coach. And yes they should back him cuz there is zero chance that they didn't know that all of this was going down before the FBI tapes surfaced.
Bottom Line: Who gives a shite if he's guilty or innocent, what can the NCAA prove?
Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:07 pm to ellessuuuu
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Inviting the NCAA to the INITIAL MEETING, is like finding out you that your company is being investigated for cooking the books and you invite the FBI and SEC (Securities and Exchange Comm'n, not the athletic conference) to your initial meeting with your CFO. You get your house in order, then you talk to the NCAA. Don't hit the panic button because you had a bad day in the press.
It's just astounding to me that y'all just aren't getting it.
NO WAY IN HELL am I going to meet with my employer and tell them I cheated. I don't care if my attorney tells me to, and the NCAA isn't there. If I met with my boss alone, with him and the NCAA, with him, the NCAA, and my attorney, with him, the NCAA, my attorney, and the FBI, with him, the NCAA, my attorney, the FBI and Mariah Carey, my statement would be the absolute same, "I am in compliance. I can't comment further."
I'm going to stick with that until someone on this board can actually lay out the specifics as to why that would not be a good idea. SPECIFCS, not just some bullshite like, "The FBI could subpoena the transcripts of the meeting!!1!" If the transcripts simply had my statement above, it would not matter one damn bit.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:08 pm to LSU Wayne
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I would say being dragged into a federal case sort of muddies that logic just a tad bit.
Why. It’s an internal inquiry unrelated to the court case where the employee is not on trial.
Look, both parties stepped on their own dicks in the way this was handled. Alleva and Wade should have met one on one, possibly with compliance.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:10 pm to ForeverLSU5
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Would love to see you represent yourself at a trial
That's the point, I have avoided trial both with and without attorneys. If you're going to trial, you've already fricked up.
Tell me what's wrong with Wade simply saying:
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I am in full compliance with all applicable NCAA rules and regulations. I cannot comment further due to the on-going federal investigation.
...in front of the NCAA and FBI.
I'll wait.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:11 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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"I am in compliance. I can't comment further."
Except that no one believes that Wade didn't break any rules. We just believe that the NCAA can't prove he broke any rules...
Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:12 pm to atltiger6487
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so if my boss walks into my office and asks if I embezzled money from the company, and I didn't do it, I'm supposed to hire an attorney before I tell my boss "no, I didn't do it"???
Really, McFly?
You’re problem is you are making up analogies that are not analogous. They don’t fit the Wade situation.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:13 pm to atltiger6487
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atltiger6487
Seriously, can you just frick off already? Every fricking thread you do this same faggy bullshite
Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:15 pm to Olric
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Especially while speaking to...
You make it sound as if he has no control over his own faculties.
You state your innocence, and can't comment further. It's simple.
But remember, be congenial.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:18 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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You state your innocence, and can't comment further. It's simple.
except he's not innocent. If he tells the NCAA that he didn't break any rules and they find evidence that he broke even the smallest rule then they can punish him very harshly for lying to them.
If he says nothing, then his words can't be used against him.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:19 pm to ellessuuuu
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You get your house in order before you talk to the NCAA. That's just common sense.
No, you don't expose your boss to potential trouble.
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there may be a question as to whether there is a violation.
"I am in full compliance."
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There may be a question about having to self-report or not.
"As I said before, I am in full compliance."
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Have those discussions internally.
Again, don't expose your boss, and/or the program unnecessarily. Once the investigation is over, then I straighten everything out with my boss.
In the meantime, when my boss calls me, I just show the frick up and only say that I am in compliance, and can't comment further.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:22 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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No, you don't expose your boss to potential trouble.
There is an absolute 0% chance that the athletic department didn't already know what was going on if not helping facilitate it. Wade didn't go door to door finding people to give him money to pay for recruits, someone on the inside introduced him to the right people.
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"I am in full compliance."
WHY WOULD HE LIE. Lying always makes it worse. He was right to just stay quiet.
This post was edited on 4/10/19 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:22 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Again, don't expose your boss, and/or the program unnecessarily.
Proof that he's done this?
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when my boss calls me
No one gives a frick what McDonald's policies are. Elite coaches don't operate by 9-5 rules. Stop trying to equate them.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:23 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Tell me what's wrong with Wade simply saying:
Due to the implications in the Dawkins trial.
I understand that tangent complicates the matter but you have to understand the risk by now, right?
Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:23 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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Except that no one believes that Wade didn't break any rules.
That is completely irrelevant.
"I am in compliance, I can't comment further."
If I'm lying, I'm in bigger trouble than just denying guilt, so it really doesn't matter. I want to give my boss plausible deniability.
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