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re: Will Wade to meet LSU sometime tomorrow (Wednesday) Updated Thursday, 4/11

Posted on 4/10/19 at 1:35 pm to
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18160 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 1:35 pm to
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Ah, lawyers are only for guilty people. Got it.
that's not what I meant, let me re-phrase.

If I have a multimillion dollar contract at risk, and I'm suspected of engaging in actions that may get me fired, and I know I'm innocent, I'm DEMANDING to immediately meet with my boss to explain. I'm DEMANDING to get interviews with media to explain. And I won't stop until my name is cleared.

Now that's just me. Maybe others would immediately lawyer up and not say a word. But if I've got a legit explanation for my actions, I'm SCREAMING it for all to hear.

Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18160 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 1:37 pm to
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You have an attorney with you when you are accused or whether you might be accused of something, not whether you are “guilty” or “innocent”.
so if my boss walks into my office and asks if I embezzled money from the company, and I didn't do it, I'm supposed to hire an attorney before I tell my boss "no, I didn't do it"???

Really, McFly?
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18160 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 1:40 pm to
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so if my boss walks into my office and asks if I embezzled money from the company, and I didn't do it, I'm supposed to hire an attorney before I tell my boss "no, I didn't do it"???
to the downvoters, I notice you didn't reply to my question.

So please answer it.
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
17966 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 1:40 pm to
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He screwed up and is therefore tainted forever. That's how the chips fall sometimes. Would have been nice to have him lead the program for the next few years, but it's time to move on.
um, EFF THAT. I'm ridin'....

Just like Auburn is ridin', UGA is ridin', UNC is ridin', UK sure as hell is ridin'....
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20457 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 1:40 pm to
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so if my boss walks into my office and asks if I embezzled money from the company, and I didn't do it, I'm supposed to hire an attorney before I tell my boss "no, I didn't do it"???
That is a terrible analogy. It's nowhere even close to being the same to what's going on with Wade and LSU.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18160 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 1:42 pm to
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quote:
so if my boss walks into my office and asks if I embezzled money from the company, and I didn't do it, I'm supposed to hire an attorney before I tell my boss "no, I didn't do it"???
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That is a terrible analogy. It's nowhere even close to being the same to what's going on with Wade and LSU.
I never mentioned Will Wade. I merely asked a question.

And again, you didn't answer.

Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 1:42 pm to
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so if my boss walks into my office and asks if I embezzled money from the company, and I didn't do it, I'm supposed to hire an attorney before I tell my boss "no, I didn't do it"???

Really, McFly?



If they plan to investigate regardless you should absolutely hire an attorney.
This post was edited on 4/10/19 at 1:43 pm
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
17966 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 1:43 pm to
we downvote and don't respond because it's a ridiculously stupid strawman you just drew up there.

In fact, that scenario of bossman casually walking into his office is not even slightly how it went down. WW wanted to talk with Alleva. Alleva/FKing are the ones who effectively "lawyered up" first with the NCAA, BOS, Compliance all having a pow-wow at CWW's expense. CWW and his lawyer then rightly said, "um, let's take a step back here."

You really are the worst at this. Just stop and save what dignity you have left.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20457 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 1:44 pm to
Nobody is answering it because it's a dumb question/analogy.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18160 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 1:44 pm to
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If they plan to investigate regardless you should absolutely hire an attorney.

so if you're 100% innocent you don't tell your boss you're innocent, you lawyer up instead?

You'll be fired. And yet you were innocent.

Insane.
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
8537 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 1:46 pm to
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so if you're 100% innocent you don't tell your boss you're innocent, you lawyer up instead?

You'll be fired. And yet you were innocent.

Insane.


You do both.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 1:46 pm to
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so if you're 100% innocent you don't tell your boss you're innocent, you lawyer up instead?

You'll be fired. And yet you were innocent.

Insane.



What makes you think WW hasn't told them off the record that he's innocent?

You telling your boss that you're innocent is the same thing.

If you're being accused of such a serious crime it's not going to end with a simple statement from you saying you're innocent. There will be an investigation regardless.
This post was edited on 4/10/19 at 1:49 pm
Posted by Hokomojo
Member since Jan 2019
159 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 1:49 pm to
as bad as this sounds, Im kind of hoping it doesn't get resolved before the weekend. I think if what you say is true doesn't happen I think we finally get rid of alleva and F King. Alexander
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12350 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 1:49 pm to
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You have an attorney with you when you are accused or whether you might be accused of something, not whether you are “guilty” or “innocent”.


Not in an employment setting. I was an administrator or department director for over 30 years and had many folks in my office to discuss alleged or suspected bad or criminal behavior. None of those folks had a lawyer. Some confessed, some lied.
This post was edited on 4/10/19 at 2:04 pm
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 1:50 pm to
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If you don't see anything wrong with this then you are to dumb to argue with, its not worth my time.

I see you're too dumb to come up with a valid reason.

Why do you think the NCAA should not hear coach Wade say that he's in compliance with their rules?
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
8537 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 1:53 pm to
You get your house in order before you talk to the NCAA. That's just common sense.

The NCAA rules are so obnoxious, there may be a question as to whether there is a violation. There may be a question about having to self-report or not. Have those discussions internally. It's really not that complicated.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18160 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 1:53 pm to
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Why do you think the NCAA should not hear coach Wade say that he's in compliance with their rules?
careful, you're being logical and using common sense. Not allowed here, where P&G glasses are required at all times.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18160 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 1:55 pm to
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Not in an employment setting. I was an administrator or department director for over 30 years and had many folks in my offense to discuss alleged or suspected bad or criminal behavior. None of those folks had a lawyer. Some confessed, some lied.
exactly correct. Finally someone who knows how the real world works.

And that's what my prior posts were all about.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 1:56 pm to
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Because if this was their play to fire him with cause...

...then Wade's attorney played right into their hands telling his client not to go to the meeting, thus giving thee AD cause to fire him. That they didn't fire him, but merely suspended him, shows that they likely DON'T want to fire him, with or without cause.

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there is literally millions of dollars on the line. I'm not going to a meeting like that without all the resources at my disposal

That puts you MORE at risk of losing the millions of dollars, not less.

Can you tell me what would be wrong with Wade just showing up to the meeting with the NCAA and saying:

quote:

I am in full compliance with all applicable NCAA rules and regulations. I cannot comment further on the matter due to the on-going federal investigation.


How could he possible have risked his millions more by doing that than not showing up at all?
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
67025 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 1:58 pm to
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Not in an employment setting. I was an administrator or department director for over 30 years and had many folks in my offense to discuss alleged or suspected bad or criminal behavior. None of those folks had a lawyer. Some confessed, some lied.


Did you have the NCAA present at any of those meetings?
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