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re: Will Wade to meet LSU sometime tomorrow (Wednesday) Updated Thursday, 4/11

Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:24 pm to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:24 pm to
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That is completely irrelevant.


Just like what you'd do if your boss called you, but you sure can't seem to shut up about that.

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I want to give my boss plausible deniability.


Not talking to him sure seems like an effective way to accomplish that, doesn't it?
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:25 pm to
Why did Dawkins legal team leak to Yahoo?

Please answer.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
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Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:25 pm to
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I want to give my boss plausible deniability.


You want to put your neck out further than it already is for a guy that would sell you as a sex slave if he thought it would help better his position somehow?
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
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Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:26 pm to
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That is completely irrelevant.


Also not irrelevant, anything you say can and will be used against you.
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:27 pm to
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If he tells the NCAA that he didn't break any rules and they find evidence that he broke even the smallest rule then they can punish him very harshly for lying to them.
that is not a trap that would catch any person.

Wade could very easily be questioned about this tape and his involvement. Period.

If there are minor infractions he could easily say that he is unaware of any infractions but he was NOT on tape talking about an illicit offer to Smart to play basketball of LSU.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:29 pm to
Bueller? Bueller.

Again, why did Dawkins legal team leak to Yahoo? What was their motivation? How were they hoping Wade would react?

Please answer.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
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Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:30 pm to
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There is an absolute 0% chance that the athletic department didn't already know what was going on if not helping facilitate it.

First, that's speculation on your part, not 0%.

Second, it doesn't matter one single bit who knew what when. All that matters is that the NCAA sees Wade tell his boss that he's in compliance. What can the NCAA do to the AD at that point that they couldn't have done before?
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WHY WOULD HE LIE

It would only be a lie if he cheated.
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Lying always makes it worse.



No, it doesn't always. As long as the LSU AD has plausible deniability, Wade lying wouldn't affect the program. As far as Wade's lying affecting him...?

How many active NCAA coaches today have been caught cheating? How many confessed to it up front? How much money are they making now?
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He was right to just stay quiet.

He could've done that IN THE MEETING.
Posted by Teddy1388
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Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:30 pm to
SOOOOOO did they meet?
Posted by ellessuuuu
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Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:32 pm to
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Why did Dawkins legal team leak to Yahoo?

Please answer


Because they know that neither the recording nor Wade's testimony are ever going to be admitted at trial. Both of these things are completely irrelevant to the crimes he and the other Defendants were accused of committing (see the federal prosecutor's motion in limine to exclude Wade's testimony). Since the testimony was never going to come out at trial, they wanted to tell their narrative through the media. That narrative is basically, everyone was doing it and doing it voluntarily, so it should not be a crime. Since this is not a recognized defense, the only way they tell that story is through the media, so they leak the information to TMZ...I mean Yahoo.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:33 pm to
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First, that's speculation on your part


L O L at you accusing others of speculating.

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It would only be a lie if he cheated.


Every fricking coach at the very least bends the rules. Don't be naive.
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As long as the LSU AD has plausible deniability


Sure seems like we have that already, yea?

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He could've done that IN THE MEETING.



Or he could just stay quiet and still have coached. But that would have required a non-retard running the LSU AD.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
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Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:33 pm to
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he was NOT on tape talking about an illicit offer to Smart to play basketball of LSU.


But he is on tape talking about that.....

Lying makes it worse. Look at Ole Miss. Look at SMU from the 80s.

Best to keep quiet and leave the burden up to the NCAA to find proof.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:34 pm to
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Or he could just stay quiet and still have coached.


Which ANY other school with competent leadership would have allowed him to do.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:34 pm to
The irony in all this, it was Alleva and FKA that canceled the initial meeting on March 8th with Wade. It wasn’t until Alleva and FKA lawyered up with LSU compliance and the NCAA rep for the 4:00 PM meeting the same day that Wade’s Lawyer advised him not to walk into that ambush.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
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Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:35 pm to
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It would only be a lie if he cheated.


Are you retarded?

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Lying always makes it worse.


See ole miss and SMU and read how their punishment was increased because they lied.
Posted by LSU Wayne
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Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:38 pm to
that's the detail that the LSU admin pumpers aren't getting. the LSU admin pushed all of this in the current state by changing the rules of that meeting to a non-starter given all of the aforementioned reasons. Of course some just won't accept that reasoning no matter how basically justified and so agree to disagree otherwise this thread will go on with rinse/repeat until Wade is reinstated or God forbid fired. And if fired, this last month of suspension was a ridiculous waste of time for everyone and will do more damage than anyone can quantify.
Posted by LSU Groupee
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Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:39 pm to
I would be very surprised if any meeting takes place as long as a thread of a subpoena hangs over Wade's head.

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:39 pm to
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Because they know that neither the recording nor Wade's testimony are ever going to be admitted at trial. Both of these things are completely irrelevant to the crimes he and the other Defendants were accused of committing (see the federal prosecutor's motion in limine to exclude Wade's testimony). Since the testimony was never going to come out at trial, they wanted to tell their narrative through the media. That narrative is basically, everyone was doing it and doing it voluntarily, so it should not be a crime. Since this is not a recognized defense, the only way they tell that story is through the media, so they leak the information to TMZ...I mean Yahoo.


And if the meeting between Wade and the LSU admin became public knowledge the judge may change his mind and allow this evidence in, which the defense sees as exculpatory, further putting Wade, LSU and the NCAA at risk.

For all we know the meeting could have taken place last week and it is being kept on the DL for this very reason until the Dawkins trial is over.
Posted by sweetwaterbilly
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Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:39 pm to
So is there any update from the "insiders"?
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:43 pm to
At this point the only way to know is if we have basketball recruits sign. If they sign we know Wade is in good standing but the LSU admin hasn’t made it public yet due to the Dawkins trial.
Posted by ellessuuuu
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Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:45 pm to
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And if the meeting between Wade and the LSU admin became public knowledge the judge may change his mind and allow this evidence in, which the defense sees as exculpatory, further putting Wade, LSU and the NCAA at risk.

For all we know the meeting could have taken place last week and it is being kept on the DL for this very reason until the Dawkins trial is over.


That is certainly a potential risk. I think the bigger risk is simply not discussing things that may become the subject of testimony (even if the possibility of testifying is low). Especially in front of a large, potentially public audeince (LSU officials, BOS members, the NCAA, etc.). It really opens pandora's box.
This post was edited on 4/10/19 at 2:46 pm
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