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re: Will Wade is great, you are the one that should leave
Posted on 1/20/21 at 9:05 pm to cowboy4ever
Posted on 1/20/21 at 9:05 pm to cowboy4ever
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Yes he did, but shouldn't the bar be a little higher than just being better than trent and Johnny
He is also ahead of Browns pace.
We run off winning coaches, replace them with the Trents and Johnnies, then we get a competent coach and the criticism starts after one loss.
No wonder Saban went to Alabama rather than coming back to LSU.
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Posted on 1/21/21 at 3:38 am to tadelatt
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you are the one that should leave
Posted on 1/21/21 at 6:16 am to WaydownSouth
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Realistically that is all we need. Someone that will have a consistent NCAAT team with a chance to make a final four run when the stars align and a few guys come back instead of turning pro
Dale brown
Posted on 1/21/21 at 6:51 am to tadelatt
You said that perfectly! This site has way to many Monday morning qb. You can tell 85% where either a beater or blower in the band. Its Amazing any1 can coach after the fact.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:50 am to tadelatt
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I played basketball my whole life and then I coached it a little bit after college. If you have a perfect gameplan and your opponent is shooting 60% from outside (21-35 as of right now) than there is nothing you can do.
Anyone who has ever played basketball knows this. This is not about coaching or poor gameplanning. Alabama just simply went nuts tonight and is making more triples than I have ever seen a college team make.
Grinnel made 42-88 to set the record.
The point is, this blowout was simply how they could not miss and nothing more. Move on to UK
So I played basketball my whole life too. I didn't coach after college like you but can still recognize good basketball from bad basketball. If the defensive problems were isolated to one game then I would agree. Although he is a fantastic recruiter (wink wink) Wade has not shown the ability to coach defense since he arrived. We should not be surprised. I'm pretty sure we were at the bottom of defensive 3 point % last year too. With the athletes that LSU has on the perimeter there's no excuse for it.
In addition, when I heard that he changed the scheme to a matchup zone for this year I sort of rolled my eyes because gimmicks don't really work. The only solution for this team to get better on defense is to emphasize it from the ground up. They obviously don't do that.
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 8:51 am
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:13 am to tadelatt
lmao this board's stance on Will Wade is easily it's most ridiculous delusion--and that's saying something.
Seriously this board treats Wade as though he'd won back-to-back-to-back NCAA Tourneys. Bottom line is that Wade is an awesome recruiter and a very average coach.
Good coaches dont produce the 128th, 179th, 59th, and 136th ranked defenses in the country over a 4 year span. Even with a talent deficit, a good coach would do better than that. And we don't have a talent deficit.
Seriously this board treats Wade as though he'd won back-to-back-to-back NCAA Tourneys. Bottom line is that Wade is an awesome recruiter and a very average coach.
Good coaches dont produce the 128th, 179th, 59th, and 136th ranked defenses in the country over a 4 year span. Even with a talent deficit, a good coach would do better than that. And we don't have a talent deficit.
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:14 am to Gus007
quote:good lord. Saban went to Alabama because there was an opening there. LSU had a head coach.
No wonder Saban went to Alabama rather than coming back to LSU.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:16 am to setinways
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If the defensive problems were isolated to one game then I would agree.
Exactly!
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In addition, when I heard that he changed the scheme to a matchup zone for this year I sort of rolled my eyes because gimmicks don't really work. The only solution for this team to get better on defense is to emphasize it from the ground up. They obviously don't do that.
This isn't football. It's not like LSU has to switch schemes. Just a commitment to playing hard and focus on trying to force tough shots rather than perpetually searching for steals/deflections/turnovers at the exclusion of EVERYTHING else would go a LONG way. Particularly in light of the fact that because Wade's teams have been so good offensively they don't have to be a "lockdown" group defensively. Just decent.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:17 am to tadelatt
61 down votes from 61 ignorant fricks!
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:18 am to LifeAquatic
quote:this is correct, and we have 4 years worth of data points to prove it. Rational fans understand it.
Seriously this board treats Wade as though he'd won back-to-back-to-back NCAA Tourneys. Bottom line is that Wade is an awesome recruiter and a very average coach.
I'll never get the fans that support the COACH instead of the PROGRAM. It's the same with Orgeron.
For these people, any criticism of a coach is not to be tolerated. Again, they support the individual coach more than the program.
I just don't get it.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:45 am to atltiger6487
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I just don't get it.
Simple. It's lowered expectation levels coupled with a lack of interest by many. For the last 30 years LSU basketball has been, at best, inconsistent. We've seen some good, to really good years sprinkled in with a lot of bad to average years. Wade is a young, likeable (at least for his fanbase) coach. More importantly, he's won at a more consistent level than any of his predecessors over the last 30 years. He came in with VERY low expectations for the program and has exceeded those greatly. For many who are not huge basketball fans and don't have big expectations for the program that is MORE than enough. So why criticize a guy who is meeting "their" expectations?
But for those who are big fans and who invest significant interest in the program (like myself) we want to see LSU take the next step to being a true championship contender. Wade said in his introductory press conference that he saw no reason why LSU couldn't be like what Florida became in the Billy Donovan era. I agreed completely and have thought the same for years! The frustration comes not because I/we are disappointed in the job Wade has done. Far from it! But frustration in the fact the program seems to be very, very close to really being a big time championship contender with only one thing holding them back...their inability to consistently defend...a flaw that Wade refuses to address in a meaningful way.
I think those who bristle at criticism of Wade are similar to me when it comes to LSU baseball. I want LSU to be good. I like win they win. But I'm not all that invested in the sport. So the job Maineri has done is fine with me whereas others who are die hard baseball fans want him gone.
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 9:45 am
Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:21 am to Melvin
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But like I said it’s easier to be a curator of talent when you’re not a great X’s And O’s coach. Which is what happened with O hiring Brady and having Aranda in staff
And like I said, if he can't bring in quality assistants to coach defense and x's and o's then it is on him.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:23 am to Alt26
We should also consider that circumstances have caused fans to be protective of Wade. The onslaught from the powers that be and their media hit men, our former AD trying to sacrifice him during an SEC title run and the deranged Orgeron sycophants who hate Wade simply because he won before it was his turn. I agree with you when criticism is warranted it needs to be levied and discussed but it’s easy to understand why fans are protective of him in particular.
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 10:24 am
Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:32 am to djrunner
quote:this isn't football. Basketball defense isn't rocket science. Wade doesn't need specialized assistants to come here and implement defenses.
And like I said, if he can't bring in quality assistants to coach defense and x's and o's then it is on him
Posted on 1/21/21 at 1:08 pm to atltiger6487
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this isn't football. Basketball defense isn't rocket science. Wade doesn't need specialized assistants to come here and implement defenses.
If it was easy to teach it and get 18 year olds to do it then everybody would be good at it. And its more complicated than you think.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 1:19 pm to djrunner
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O is ten times the coach Wade is. Wade will never come close to a championship or the year O had. If he can't hire top assistant coaches that is on him.
I can't even process this take.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 1:24 pm to setinways
quote:no, it's actually not complicated.
If it [basketball defense] was easy to teach it and get 18 year olds to do it then everybody would be good at it. And its more complicated than you think.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 2:32 pm to atltiger6487
It can be as complicated as you want it to be. Bad defenses usually aren't complicated and good ones are.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 2:42 pm to pigskinGod
Only like a dozen active coaches have...
Posted on 1/21/21 at 3:33 pm to setinways
quote:that's just simply not true. At all.
It can be as complicated as you want it to be. Bad defenses usually aren't complicated and good ones are.
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