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re: Will Miles allow CJ to miss Sping Football next year?
Posted on 6/26/09 at 9:09 am to rutiger
Posted on 6/26/09 at 9:09 am to rutiger
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just said he would be a first rounder.
Thats a big stretch IMO as well. He has really done nothing at a college football level to even be remotely considered a 1st rd pick or even a 1st day pick for that matter. Hell people on this board felt the Ali Highsmith, Herman Johnson, Darry Beckwith were sure fire top draft picks
His potential is high but come on plus we don't know anything about his actual speed just that "he almost ran down McFadden once". All those who are saying he is a sure 1st rounder in the NFL are drinking to much LSU Kool-aid.
This post was edited on 6/26/09 at 9:17 am
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Posted on 6/26/09 at 9:17 am to STEVED00
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Thats a big stretch IMO as well.
we'll just have to agree to disagree, because its really not a stretch in my opinion.
i understand what you're saying, but i think he has a break out year this year playing his natural position.
he looked completely lost most of the football season last year, but his up side is incredible.
Posted on 6/26/09 at 9:24 am to STEVED00
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Ali Highsmith, Herman Johnson, Darry Beckwith were sure fire top draft picks
please dont put me in that category, because i never felt that way.
Posted on 6/26/09 at 9:26 am to rutiger
Herman Johnson is only 1 you could say people thought would be a Top NFL draft pick.
Putting Beckwith, Highsmith in that category is reaching based on what maybe 1 ranter said about them.
Putting Beckwith, Highsmith in that category is reaching based on what maybe 1 ranter said about them.
Posted on 6/26/09 at 9:32 am to tduecen
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Herman Johnson is only 1 you could say people thought would be a Top NFL draft pick.
The majority thought Ali would be until he posted that 5.0 40.
Posted on 6/26/09 at 9:33 am to STEVED00
Ali was never more than 3rd round at best
Posted on 6/26/09 at 9:35 am to DaddyGriff
If his future in baseball is on the mound, he doesn't need to miss Spring training.
Posted on 6/26/09 at 9:49 am to AlxTgr
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Spring training
Spring football practice for proven returning starters is not that essential. The Spring practices are mainly competitions to replace the departed guys and to keep in shape.
This post was edited on 6/26/09 at 9:51 am
Posted on 6/26/09 at 9:52 am to DaddyGriff
Who thinks CJ wants to miss Spring Football next year?
CJ can play summer league baseball if he wants to pursue baseball.
CJ can play summer league baseball if he wants to pursue baseball.
Posted on 6/26/09 at 10:09 am to Bad Cat
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Who thinks CJ wants to miss Spring Football next year?
CJ can play summer league baseball if he wants to pursue baseball.
I agree to an extent. I just don't think Spring Football is all that important for a proven starter (assuming he is the starting S next year) that is staying in shape. The biggest reason he needed to be at Spring Football this past year was b/c of the change at DC.
With that being said, if LSU changes DCs again next season then I think it would be very important that CJ partcipates.
This post was edited on 6/26/09 at 10:10 am
Posted on 6/26/09 at 10:19 am to tduecen
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give up football for baseball your the next Johan Santana
I think his future is in football as well.
But, to be fair, he is a legit prospect on the mound.
They guy performed well at the highest level of college baseball by basically stepping foot on the mound for the first time in mid April.
He's throwing a cut fastball at about 92 consistently, and his slider looks to be well above average. He's 6'3" and super athletic so he likely is going to be seen by scouts as having a pretty high ceiling.
It is not ridiculous to consider that he could play baseball. In fact, my opinion that he should play football is based on how good I believe he is...not that he hasn't shown enough on the mound.
Posted on 6/26/09 at 10:31 am to moneyg
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He's throwing a cut fastball at about 92 consistently, and his slider looks to be well above average. He's 6'3" and super athletic so he likely is going to be seen by scouts as having a pretty high ceiling.
I just think this fact is the reason he will eventually wind up in baseball. Big LHPs with plus FBs, wicked sliders, and low wear and tear on their arms are very Hot commodities. Plus, you add that to the relatively long lifespan (far less physically demanding) of a MLB player.
Posted on 6/26/09 at 10:34 am to STEVED00
nothing has been proven.....2 good innings on the mound doesnt justify a legit pitcher...
Posted on 6/26/09 at 10:36 am to STEVED00
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Plus, you add that to the relatively long lifespan (far less physically demanding) of a MLB player.
the problem with this, is that its WAY harder to make it to the majors than it is to make it to the nfl. you get drafted in the 1st round of the nfl draft, you've made it. you get drafted in the 1st round in the mlb draft, you may end up in the minors your whole career.
Posted on 6/26/09 at 10:40 am to rutiger
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Plus, you add that to the relatively long lifespan (far less physically demanding) of a MLB player.
the problem with this, is that its WAY harder to make it to the majors than it is to make it to the nfl. you get drafted in the 1st round of the nfl draft, you've made it. you get drafted in the 1st round in the mlb draft, you may end up in the minors your whole career.
Plus he blows out elbow/shoulder and drops down to 85-88 MPH then were is that next big contract? There is same injury risk involved in both sports, a blown out elbow or blown out knee.
Baseball you can play until you 40's, football really you can too if stay injury free and stay in shape.
Baseball has 4 levels of minors (A,AA,AAA) plus many more independent leagues. Your looking at every team fielding a full roster for A,AA,AAA thats alot of players some who are just as talented as Jones.
Posted on 6/26/09 at 10:45 am to rutiger
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the problem with this, is that its WAY harder to make it to the majors than it is to make it to the nfl. you get drafted in the 1st round of the nfl draft, you've made it. you get drafted in the 1st round in the mlb draft, you may end up in the minors your whole career.
Not saying its easy to make it in the majors; however, talented LHPs are probably the hottest commodity in baseball. Any he definitely has the tools.
My whole argument is just to contradict those folks that are saying CJ's future is definitely in football b/c he is a sure fire 1st rd pick ala Laron Landry. Through the same stages in their careers, CJ isn't anywhere close to LL's production, so I feel that it is a huge leap of faith.
Posted on 6/26/09 at 10:46 am to tduecen
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Baseball you can play until you 40's, football really you can too if stay injury free and stay in shape.
Posted on 6/26/09 at 10:48 am to STEVED00
Brett Favre
Darrell Green
Clay Matthews
Darrell Green
Clay Matthews
Posted on 6/26/09 at 10:52 am to tduecen
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Brett Favre
Darrell Green
Clay Matthews
Do you really want to get into #s game with baseball players vs football players playing into their late 30s/early40's? Trust me it won't help your case...
Posted on 6/26/09 at 10:56 am to STEVED00
Again sample size, plus with steroids its even harder to debate who has prolonged their career taking something a little illegal here and there.
I made my point that playing into 40's is possible and it is. NFL safeties routinely play into early 30's and by 35 are out of game some hang around some are out earlier.
I made my point that playing into 40's is possible and it is. NFL safeties routinely play into early 30's and by 35 are out of game some hang around some are out earlier.
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