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re: Will McMahon get another year after this?

Posted on 11/17/23 at 8:37 am to
Posted by ellessuuuu
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Posted on 11/17/23 at 8:37 am to
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Thanks to Will Wade for leaving him a shite show and literally no players


Yes, it's Will Wade's fault he lost to Nicolls in year 2 and blew a 15 point lead to Dayton.

You really are a moron.
This post was edited on 11/17/23 at 8:41 am
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 11/17/23 at 8:39 am to
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This wasn’t Woody. This is ALL President Tate and the BOS that weren’t willing to withstand the public scrutiny of keeping Wade. Woody wanted to extend Wade. Fact.


Tate did want Wade out, but Woody was on board. He did not like Wade open criticizing facilities.

Also, McMahon only has a 6 year contract. It would have been extended to 8 if LSU had a postseason ban.
Posted by josh336
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Posted on 11/17/23 at 8:46 am to
They are one of the best shooting teams in the country
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/17/23 at 8:47 am to
New LSU men's basketball coach Matt McMahon signed a seven-year deal that includes added job security depending on the severity of any sanctions the program receives from the NCAA in its ongoing infractions case, according to a copy of his term sheet obtained Tuesday by The Advocate through a public records request.

McMahon, who left Murray State for the position, will earn $20.3 million in base salary and supplemental compensation over the course of the agreement, an average of $2.9 million annually that makes him LSU’s second-highest paid coach on a per year basis behind football coach Brian Kelly.
Posted by timlan2057
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Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 11/17/23 at 8:48 am to
Lol.

I know you Wade frick boys don’t want to hear this but it’s a fact: Will Wade fricked up this program and left it in the shape it was in.

McMahon’s first real recruiting class that is his own free of restraints is shaping up to be a good one. His real first year doesn’t start until next season.

Woodward has delivered national championship and top quality coaches across the board. He can take as long as he needs to fix the men’s basketball program that Will Wade broke.
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
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Posted on 11/17/23 at 8:52 am to
McMahon Contract

McMahon's contract if anyone wants to read it.

If we fire him at the end of this season for poor performance (without cause) we owe him 80% of his remaining base salary and supplemental income. We're looking at a $10 million+ buyout. Excellent contract from Woody
Posted by LSUfan2008
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2005
2547 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 8:54 am to
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If we fire him at the end of this season for poor performance (without cause) we owe him 80% of his remaining base salary and supplemental income. We're looking at a $10 million+ buyout. Excellent contract from Woody

At least there is the offset from whatever job he would get after being terminated. Presumably he might get another HC job at a midmajor so that would mitigate some of the cost. Still a terrible deal.
Posted by nicholastiger
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Posted on 11/17/23 at 9:07 am to
No mid major is gonna want him the way he is trending
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
8882 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 9:12 am to
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I know you Wade frick boys don’t want to hear this but it’s a fact: Will Wade fricked up this program and left it in the shape it was in.


And how is that? You do realize that other programs have had to turn over 9-10 spots on a roster (including Mizzou and Arkansas last year) and made the tournament that same year.

Instead of making a blanket statement, explain why he f'd up the program and left it in bad shape.

BTW had we kept Wade, he would have coached last year with his roster and the #3 ranked recruiting class in the nation. This year, he would have been forced to sit the first 10 games. That's literally it, a 10-game suspension.

What F'd up the program was firing Wade and then hiring a guy who has never had to build a program. McMahon inherited a team at Murray St. that went 27-2 the year before. This guy was not the best person available, but Woody made the lazy hire, mid major coach with some tournament success. Didn't dig any deeper than that.

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Woodward has delivered national championship and top quality coaches across the board. He can take as long as he needs to fix the men’s basketball program that Will Wade broke.


Please tell me about Woody's great track record in MBB...
This post was edited on 11/17/23 at 9:14 am
Posted by SligoTiger
South of I-10
Member since Jun 2023
167 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 9:15 am to
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Hey, but he coached Ja Morant, it’s losing its luster


We somehow hired the Curley Hallman of college basketball. Remarkable.
Posted by TigerDM
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
1705 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 9:18 am to
In many respects he inherited a worse situation than Brady did when Dale Brown was fired. The NCAA punished LSU far worse than the teams in similar situation because of the way Wade dealt with them. It was bad enough losing almost all of the players, the NCAA has held a cloud over LSU until recently which has kept numerous recruits/transfers from considering coming here.

Fortunately LSU is such a national brand, now that the cloud is gone, McMahon can get some talented players to come here through recruiting and the portal.
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
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Posted on 11/17/23 at 9:18 am to
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Woodward has delivered national championship and top quality coaches across the board. He can take as long as he needs to fix the men’s basketball program that Will Wade broke.


Woodward made a good hire in baseball because our fanbase cares WAY more about baseball than basketball.

He was lazy with MBB.

He got LUCKY that one of, if not the, GREATEST WBB of all time WANTED to come coach at LSU. Woody didn't bring Mulkey here. She wanted to come here. Don't credit Woody with the Mulkey hire or the success that comes with it.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 11/17/23 at 9:37 am to
I want to like McMahon because he seems like a genuinely good person but its hard to justify keeping him around if things don't improve.

I get that we don't have the most talented team but yesterday had nothing to do with talent and everything to do with being out coached. There is no reason a press should cripple a team the way it did yesterday and he had no answers for it for 9 straight minutes.
Posted by MintBerry Crunch
Member since Nov 2010
5481 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 9:39 am to
He should. He’s a good coach. Give him some time dammit. What do we have to lose?
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
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Posted on 11/17/23 at 9:42 am to
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He’s a good coach


Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 11/17/23 at 9:44 am to
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He should. He’s a good coach.


He has yet to do anything during a game that makes me think he's above average as a sideline coach. By that I mean he has never switched defenses and killed another teams momentum or ran plays to attack a weakness over and over or made adjustments to overcome whatever the other team is doing that is hurting us. But he is a good guy so I hope he turns it around.

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What do we have to lose?



Time. The other schools in this conference are taking Basketball seriously and most have exceptional coaches. The more entrenched Mussleman, Buzz, Beard, Oats, etc. have to build their programs up, the harder it becomes to establish our own.
Posted by BigEdLSU
All around the south
Member since Sep 2010
20292 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 9:45 am to
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has held a cloud over LSU
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now that the cloud is gone,


You McMen are lunatics. A cloud? What the hell are you tlaking about?>
Posted by Locoguan0
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2017
6196 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 10:01 am to
McM had to know that he was a transition guy. Who would want to follow Wade? You let this guy deal with the shite fallout, then sell out for a big name.
Posted by Septiger
Member since Nov 2020
2511 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 10:13 am to
I think he will get year 3 no matter the outcome of this season.
Now if next year is abysmal, I think he would leave Woodward no choice.
Posted by Julz5198
Member since Mar 2023
564 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 10:25 am to
Yea. We see Scottie’s results In Aggieland. 75 mil
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