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re: Why'd LSU start Paul Skenes - WWL Article

Posted on 6/3/23 at 11:16 am to
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 6/3/23 at 11:16 am to
That is exactly what I expected him to say about it. "We thought he'd give us a great chance to win" type answer. Of course he did. And what about today? "We have confidence in everyone". No one believes that. We can see your expressions during the games, when you're sweating out games with the rest of us.
Posted by latigerfan2
covington, la
Member since Jan 2005
2112 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 11:18 am to
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Now that part definitely doesn't give me the warm and fuzzies.


Even Moscona thought it was idiotic, and he’s the biggest brown noser in town when it comes to coaching decisions
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175429 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 11:23 am to
What’s with this we had to throw Skenes against Tulane to save the bullpen narrative?

Since when has the bullpen been burned up any time Skenes starts. Skenes would “save the bullpen” tonight by only needing one or two guys in short relief to finish off Oregon State like every other game he pitched this season.

Skenes saves the bullpen every time he pitches. All you did was force yourself to use more of your bullpen against a better team.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 11:26 am to
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All you did was force yourself to use more of your bullpen against a better team.


Because we know how tonight’s game plays out?

Derp lol
Posted by Tigerik
Franklin, TN
Member since Mar 2007
1720 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 11:26 am to
Skenes was asked by Coach Johnson how he felt and Skenes told him I want this, so he let him go. Gotta trust your players.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 6/3/23 at 11:28 am to
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Because we know how tonight’s game plays out?

Derp lol

How many weekends did LSU use less of their bullpen in a Floyd start compared to the Skenes start the day before?
Posted by Tigerik
Franklin, TN
Member since Mar 2007
1720 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 11:30 am to
Winning game 1 increases your odds of winning the Regional exponentially. Tulane came into this very hot. CJJ didn't want to mess around and after we see this play out I hope we're all thinking it was a good move.
Tough call, but someone had to make it and he gets paid a lot of money to make those calls. I trust him.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 11:31 am to
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How many weekends did LSU use less of their bullpen in a Floyd start compared to the Skenes start the day before?


How many of those weekends were a regional format?
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175429 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 11:33 am to
If you want to say that then it makes more sense to use your bullpen on Friday to give them more rest before using them again on Sunday or even Monday.

Doing it this way you have to use them on Saturday then again on Sunday and potentially again on Monday.

Saturday would be the bullpen rest day if Skenes started today. Now you’ll have to use the bullpen on back to back days and potentially three days in a row.
Posted by West Bank Dan
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2010
897 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 11:33 am to
This is one of those rare coaching decisions where even if we won every game in the regional 15-0 some people are still going to criticize it, like 3 years after the fact…. So, I hope to God CJJ made the right call! Geaux Tigers!
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 11:43 am to
That’s what they are there for. They don’t pitch whole games. They eat up a handful of innings at a time.

I don’t think the team is going into tonight planning to use 6 pitchers from the bullpen. Just like they wouldn’t have planned on that last night if Skenes didn’t start.

I’m sure any coach would love not to have to use bullpen pitchers at all.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
24477 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 11:45 am to
There’s no justification in using Skenes vs Tulane, IMO

But moving fwd, you’re not going anywhere without your Hurds and Floyds beating Oregon States and Sam Houstons

I guess what it says is that he has no confidence in his team outside of Skenes starting, regardless of opponent, and probably with good reason

Either way, it does not bode well. JMO

And I’m willing to bet there are many on the team that share similar thoughts
Posted by LSUsuperfresh
Member since Oct 2010
8512 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 11:47 am to
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This is one of those rare coaching decisions where even if we won every game in the regional 15-0 some people are still going to criticize it


Nice strawman. The criticism will die if we win the next 2 convincingly. Feels like you're setting up "oh well. People would have complained anyway" in the chance we lose today and the decision becomes glaringly myopic in retrospect
Posted by BayouPride
Member since Sep 2006
842 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 11:53 am to
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I really feel that Skenes pitched yesterday so he would have a full 7 days rest to pitch Friday in Supers


+1 knowing Jay is Omaha or bust, a loss in the regionals and a loss in the super regionals is equal failure. He is managing to get to Omaha not to win phase one, but to win phase one and two.
Posted by Trojans56
Nola
Member since Jan 2013
975 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 12:01 pm to
Nothing but a bunch of couch potatoes that think they’re smarter than a highly paid college baseball coach. Just let him do his job.
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31141 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 12:11 pm to
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Nothing but a bunch of couch potatoes that think they’re smarter than a highly paid college baseball coach. Just let him do his job.


he def went against conventional coaching decisions not to pitch your best pitcher for the first game considering the competition.
Posted by Contrary
Nashville
Member since Dec 2019
1084 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 12:15 pm to
Why cant cjj explain his actual decision? I mean why can he be hinest and upfront in what caused him to go with skenes against tulane and not in g2?
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29535 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 12:50 pm to
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You’d be surprised at how many former ballers post here. People know the game just as well, and can disagree.

I absolutely support that decision after watching Tulane barrel balls up. They are far from done in this tournament if their pitching holds out.

This is more than 1 game and getting that CG is HUGE.
I did NOT support the decision because like tRant, I really thought Tulane was just lucky to be there. I had no idea how well they pitched and hit. You can see why this is a different team.

Johnson is paid to make those decisions. He is responsible and accountable for everything.
Critiquing is not bashing when the ones doing it have likely never picked up a bat or umped a game or played at a high level in any sport.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 6/3/23 at 1:09 pm to
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I’m not saying 124 is out of his comfort zone


Good because from all indications it wasn’t. His stuff was deadly in the 8th and 9th.

We can put a pin on this until we see his stuff on his next start. If he comes out with velo and control issues maybe it was too much. But so far I really don’t think so.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
287959 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 1:15 pm to
And all indications he could have thrown tonight and been fine to pitch GM1 of a super regional
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